2004 CHEVROLET SUBURBAN Service Brakes, Hydraulic Problems

I LIVE NEAR FREDERICK, MARYLAND AND TODAY I DROVE MY 2004 SUBURBAN DOWN TO THE CUL DE SAC AT THE END OF OUR STREET GOING AROUND 20MPH, BUT WHEN I PRESSED THE BRAKES, I FELT THEM GO ALMOST TO THE FLOOR, SO I PUMPED/PRESSED THEM AGAIN TWICE AND EACH TIME THEY THEN WENT FULLY TO THE FLOOR BUT THE TRUCK WAS NOT STOPPING. I MANAGED TO PUT THE VEHICLE IN NEUTRAL AND PRESS THE EMERGENCY BRAKE TO GET THE VEHICLE STOPPED WITH THE FRONT TIRES JUST 3 FEET FROM MY NEIGHBORS LAWN. I THEN GOT OUT AND LOOKED UNDER THE VEHICLE AND THERE WAS BRAKE FLUID EVERYWHERE ALONG WITH A TRAIL OF IT ABOUT 30-40 FEET UP THE STREET FROM WHERE I FIRST PRESSED THE BRAKES. I TOWED THE TRUCK BACK TO MY DRIVEWAY AND LOOKED UNDERNEATH AND CAN SEE THAT ALL OF THE STEEL BRAKE LINES ARE HEAVILY RUSTED ALONG THE FRAME BELOW THE DRIVERS DOOR AREA. I COULD SEE THAT ONE OF THE LINES CLEARLY RUPTURED AND SPRAYED BRAKE FLUID EVERYWHERE. I STARTED LOOKING ON THE INTERNET AND SEE THE SAME SYMPTOM/PROBLEMS ARE ALREADY LISTED AS UNDER INVESTIGATION FOR 1999-2003 CHEVY TRUCKS UNDER NHTSA ACTION NUMBER : PE10010. MINE IS A 2004 MODEL YEAR BUT IT MAY HAVE BEEN BUILT IN LATE 2003. IN ANY CASE, I WAS EXTREMELY LUCKY THAT IT HAPPENED IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AT 20MPH AND NOT ON THE HIGHWAY OR WHILE TOWING. CLEARLY GM HAS A PROBLEM AND THESE TRUCKS THAT NEEDS TO BE RECALLED AS THIS PROBLEM COULD KILL PEOPLE VERY EASILY! *TR

Mileage: 109,115

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2004 CHEVROLET SUBURBAN. WHILE PARKED, THE DRIVER DEPRESSED THE BRAKE PEDAL BUT THE BRAKES WOULD NOT RESPOND. THE PARKING BRAKE WAS APPLIED IN ORDER TO STOP THE VEHICLE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER FOR DIAGNOSTIC TESTING. THE TECHNICIAN ADVISED THE CONTACT THAT THE BRAKE LINES HAD CORRODED FROM THE INSIDE AND WOULD HAVE TO BE REPLACED ALONG WITH THE BRAKE PADS AND ROTORS. THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 39,000. ...UPDATED 10/17/12 *BF THE CONSUMER STATED THE VEHICLE DID NOT SHOW ANY WARNING LIGHTS. GM OFFERED A CREDIT TOWARDS PURCHASING A NEW CHEVROLET VEHICLE. THE CONSUMER DECLINED. UPDATED 10/17/2012 *JS THE CONSUMER ALSO STATED THE CALIPERS WERE SEVERELY RUSTED, ALONG WITH THE FRONT CALIPER HOSES AND FRONT ROTORS, WHICH CAUSED THE BRAKE PADS TO CRACK AND WEAR UNEVENLY. UPDATED EVOQ 10/24/12 UPDATED EVOQ 11/21/12

Mileage: 39,000

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2004 CHEVROLET SUBURBAN. WHILE PARKED, THE DRIVER DEPRESSED THE BRAKE PEDAL BUT THE BRAKES WOULD NOT RESPOND. THE PARKING BRAKE WAS APPLIED IN ORDER TO STOP THE VEHICLE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER FOR DIAGNOSTIC TESTING. THE TECHNICIAN ADVISED THE CONTACT THAT THE BRAKE LINES HAD CORRODED FROM THE INSIDE AND WOULD HAVE TO BE REPLACED ALONG WITH THE BRAKE PADS AND ROTORS. THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 39,000. ...UPDATED 10/17/12 *BF THE CONSUMER STATED THE VEHICLE DID NOT SHOW ANY WARNING LIGHTS. GM OFFERED A CREDIT TOWARDS PURCHASING A NEW CHEVROLET VEHICLE. THE CONSUMER DECLINED. UPDATED 10/17/2012 *JS THE CONSUMER ALSO STATED THE CALIPERS WERE SEVERELY RUSTED, ALONG WITH THE FRONT CALIPER HOSES AND FRONT ROTORS, WHICH CAUSED THE BRAKE PADS TO CRACK AND WEAR UNEVENLY. UPDATED EVOQ 10/24/12 UPDATED EVOQ 11/21/12

Mileage: 39,000

WAS DRIVING AT A VERY LOW RATE OF SPEED; TRYING TO STOP WHEN WHAT FELT LIKE THE ANTILOCK BRAKES KICKED ON AND THE MESSAGE "TRACTION ACTIVE" APPEARED ON MY CONSOLE. THIS MADE IT VERY DIFFICULT TO CONTROL AND STOP THE VEHICLE. THEN WHEN TRYING TO ACCELERATE, VEHICLE WOULD LUG DOWN AND NOT WANT TO GO. THERE WAS ALSO A NOISE, LIKE A PUMP OR SOMETHING WHEN TRYING TO BRAKE OR ACCELERATE. TURNING OFF THE STABILITRACK SEEMS TO STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING, WHICH IN TURN MEANS I DO NOT HAVE ANTILOCK BRAKES. THIS IS A HUGE SAFETY ISSUE, ESPECIALLY IF TRYING TO MERGE, PASS THROUGH AN INTERSECTION OR WHILE DRIVING AT A HIGH RATE OF SPEED. *TR

Mileage: 149,000

WHILE APPROACHING A STOP SIGN, I TRIED TO BRAKE AND THE PEDAL WENT TO THE FLOOR. NO BRAKES!! I WAS ABLE TO COAST TO A STOP. UPON CHECKING, ALL BRAKE FLUID WAS GONE AND THE BRAKE LINES WERE ROTTED THROUGH. ALL BRAKE LINES HAD TO BE REPLACED ALONG WITH THE FRONT CALIPERS. CORROSION WAS THE PROBLEM WITH THE LINES AND CALIPERS.

Mileage: 63,200

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2004 CHEVROLET SUBURBAN. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE BRAKES WERE SPONGY AND CONTINUED TO FEEL WEAKENED. THE DEALER REPLACED THE SENSOR FOR THE FRONT ANTI-LOCK BRAKING SYSTEM FIVE TIMES TO NO AVAIL. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE ANTI-LOCK BRAKING SYSTEMS WOULD INDEPENDENTLY ENGAGE AT LOW SPEED AND THE BRAKES WOULD FEEL SHAKY. THE DEALER WAS UNABLE TO PROVIDE A CAUSE FOR THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 37,520 AND THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 80,000.

Mileage: 37,520

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2004 CHEVROLET SUBURBAN. WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 35 MPH, THE STEERING WHEEL REQUIRED GREATER EFFORT TO TURN. THERE WAS A LOW POWER RESPONSE WHEN THE BRAKE PEDAL WAS DEPRESSED. IN ADDITION, THE SERVICE BRAKE BOOSTER WARNING INDICATOR ILLUMINATED ON THE INSTRUMENT PANEL. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER FOR INSPECTION. THE VIN WAS EXCLUDED FROM NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID NUMBER 05V043000 (SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC), ALTHOUGH THE FAILURES WERE IDENTICAL. THE FAILURE AND CURRENT MILEAGES WERE 23,400. UPDATED 08/28/09. *LJ UPDATED 08/31/09.*JB

Mileage: 23,400

NO INCIDENTS KNOWN. MASTER BRAKE CYLINDER LEAKS. VEHICLE ONLY HAS 46,000 MILES. I DO NOT TOW TRAILERS, CARRY HEAVY LOADS, OR APPLY HEAVY BRAKE PRESSURE WHEN STOPPING. APPEARS TO BE AN OBVIOUS DEFECT IN THE MASTER CYLINDER. COULD CAUSE ACCIDENT OR INJURY IF NOT INVESTIGATED AND CORRECTED. *TR

Mileage: 46,405

DT*: THE CONTACT STATED WHILE TRAVELING 5 MPH, THE POWER STEERING FAILED, THEN BOTH FEET WERE USED TO STOP THE VEHICLE. IT WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT REPAIR SHOP WHO DETERMINED THE POWER STEERING AND BRAKE BOOSTER SYSTEM FAILED AND BOTH COMPONENTS WERE REPLACED.

Mileage: 39,000

2004 CHEVROLET SUBURBAN REAR BRAKE PADS AND ROTORS ARE RUSTED.***NO ANSWER REQUIRED*** *MR RECALL CAMPAIGN# 04V0450000 & 05V04300. *SC

THE VEHICLE LOST IT'S SERVICE STABILITY CONTROL AT 40 MILES PER HOUR MAKING IT DIFFICULT FOR THE DRIVER TO MAINTAIN CONTROL OF THE VEHICLE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER FOR REPAIR FOR THE FOURTH TIME, BUT THERE STILL CONTINUES TO BE A STEERING PROBLEM. *NM THERE WERE FIVE REPAIR ATTEMPTS TO REPAIR THE SYSTEM. THE BRAKES WOULD PULSE AND COME ON WHILE THE VEHICLE WAS IN MOTION FOLLOWED BY THE SERVICE STABILITY LIGHT. THE VEHICLE WOULD SHAKE VIOLENTLY AS IF IT WERE OUT OF CONTROL. THE TRANSMISSION WOULD SLIP AT TIMES. A SERVICE BULLETIN WAS FOUND IN RE TO THE CLUTCH. THE FORWARD CLUTCH SEAL/PISTON DISS PUMP AS WELL AS THE SHIFT CABLE. THE YAW RATE SENSOR TABLE WAS REPLACED AND THE ABS MODULE WAS REPROGRAMMED. THERE WAS POPPING COMING FROM THE LEFT WHEN TURNING DUE TO THE CROSSMEMBER. STATIC NOISE WAS HEARD UNDER THE DASH AT TIMES WHEN THE HEADLIGHTS FLICKERED. BOTH UPPER SHOCK INSULATORS WERE SQUEAKING. BOTH SHOCK INSULATORS WERE REMOVED AND REPLACED BY NEW STYLE INSULATORS. THE YAW RATE SENSOR WAS REPLACED AGAIN WITH ONE FORM A NEW UNIT, THE STEERING ROTATION SENSOR WAS REPLACED AND THE STABILITY MODULE WAS REPROGRAMMED. *SC *JB

WHILE DRIVING AT APPROXIMATELY 25 MPH DRIVER APPLIED THE BRAKES AND BRAKE PEDAL WENT TO THE FLOOR. THIS PROBLEM HAPPENED INTERMITTENTLY. OWNER TOOK VEHICLE TO THE DEALER, AND LEFT IT THERE FOR REPAIRS. WHEN THE OWNER PICKED UP THE VEHICLE HE WAS INFORMED THAT THEY COULD NOT DUPLICATE THE PROBLEM. *AK THIS PROBLEM ALSO OCCURRED WHILE STOPPED AND WAITING FOR STOP LIGHTS TO CHANGE. *BF *NM

Mileage: 10,000

WHILE APPLYING THE BRAKE PEDAL, THE VEHICLE FAILED TO STOP COMPLETELY. THE CONSUMER DROVE TO THE DEALER FOR AN INSPECTION. THE CAUSE HAS NOT BEEN DETERMINED AT THIS TIME. PLEASE PROVIDE FURTHER DETAILS. *JB

UPDATE TO PRIOR COMPLAINT BASED ON ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. HAVE DISCUSSED THIS WITH D BOYD. 2004 SUBURBAN FAILED TO SLOW DURING HARD STOP BETWEEN 40 AND 20 MPH. I BELIEVE THAT MY ORIGINAL CONCLUSION IS PROBABLY ACCURATE GIVEN THAT THE 2004 CADILLAC SRX ABS ECU AND THE INTERNATIONAL ABS ECU FAILURES WERE WITHIN THE TIME PERIOD MY SUBURBAN WAS MANUFACTURED. THIS HAPPENED ONCE BEFORE AND OCCURS DURING WET CONDITIONS AFTER TWO CONSECUTIVE BRAKE ATTEMPTS. GM IS STONE WALLING ME BUT I'D LIKE TO HANDLE THIS WITHOUT GETTING CLARENCE DITLOW @ THE CENTER FOR AUTO SAFETY FURTHER INVOLVED. I'VE HAD PROBLEMS WITH HENDRICK CHEVY FOR ALMOST A YEAR NOW INCLUDING A DEFECTIVE ENGINE ON 1996 TAHOE, DEFECTIVE BRAKES, SUSPECT EMISSIONS TESTING DTC P302 CYLINDER 2 MISFIRE, POSSIBLE INCORRECT TRANSMISSION REPLACEMENT, POSSIBLE FAILURE TO REPLACE PASSENGER SEAT WHICH I BELIEVE WAS RECALLED AND POSED A DANGER FOR ALMOST 4 YEARS, DEX COOL GASKET BLOW OUT, STEERING COLUMN LOCKUP ETC. I REQUESTED A POLICE REPORT FROM THE NC DOT AND FOR SOME STRANGE REASON IT'S NOT ON FILE ALTHOUGH I HAVE THE RECEIPT FROM THE OFFICER. VIN # ON THE SUBURBAN WAS 3GNFK1674G131855 MANUFACTURED @ THE SILAO ASSEMBLY PLANT ON 9/13/03 @ 7:10:31. SHIPPED TO 16153 HENDRICK CHEVOLET-HUMMER 100 AUTO MALL DR CARY NC DEALER ORDER NUMBER GMNGBB CHARGED TO ZONE: 16 DEALER: 153 PUI: 04203173688. CSQ 2GA1416724 DATE CODE ON THE DELCO BATTERY WHICH FAILED WAS MARCH 2004. *JB

Mileage: 7,800

UPDATE TO COMPLAINT 10098773. BRAKES FAILED TO STOP 2004 SUBURBAN DURING HARD STOP AT UNDER 40 MPH. LOST POWER ASSIST AND SOME STEERING CAPABILITIES. FELT LIKE THE ROTORS WERE DEFECTIVE. BRAKE PEDEL WAS FIRM BUT WOULD NOT SLOW. IMPACT @ AROUND 20MPH CAUSE OVER $10,000 DAMAGE INCLUDING A BENT FRAME. I HAD A DAVIS INSTRUMENTS CARCHIP READER RECORDING SEVERAL METRICS INCLUDING SPEED. CAR WAS NEW IN AUGUST WITH LESS THAN 8,000 MILES. I HAVE ALL THE CARCHIP LOGS FOR THIS CAR FROM AROUND THE TIME I ACQUIRED IT. HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE DEALER FROM DAY ONE DUE TO SUSPECT REPAIRS ON AN EARLIER VEHICLE WHICH HAD EMISSIONS AND TRANSMISSIONS PROBLEMS. DEALER CONVICED ME TO TRADE UP ONCE THEY REALIZED THAT THEY COULD NOT FIX THE OLD CAR AFTER MULTIPLE ATTEMPTS BETWEEN MARCH AND JULY 2004. 22 YEAR COLLISION FREE DRIVING RECORD. ELECTRICAL ENGINEER WITH 18 YEARS EXPERIENCE IN HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE INCLUDING MILITARY WEAPONS SYSTEMS, OPERATING SYSTEMS, NETWORKING AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS. I HAVE NEVER ENCOUNTERED THIS TYPE OF PROBLEM WITH ANY OTHER CAR I HAVE OWNED. CALLED GM 11/18/04. NO RESPONSE YET. MECHANIC FOUND A SERVICE BULLETIN RECALL 04V045000 - POSSIBLE HYDRO-BOOST DEFECT WHICH MATCHES THE DECRIPTION I EXPLAIN. SOME ONE NEEDS TO GET IN FRONT OF THIS ISSUE BEFORE A MORE SERIOUS ACCIDENT OCCURS. I HAVE A 2 YEAR OLD SON WHO THANKFULLY WAS NOT IN THE CAR AT THE TIME. *AK

Mileage: 6,766

BRAKES FAILED TO SLOW 2004 SUBURBAN DURING LOW SPEED BRAKING IN WET WEATHER CAUSING A COLLISION. ABS MODULE IS NOT WORKING CORRECTLY IN WET ENVIRONMENT DURING A HARD STOP. I HAVE OWNED SEVERAL SUVS AND HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS PROBLEM IN THE OTHERS. I HAVE THE FULL DUMP OF THE OBD SPEED PLOTS JUST PRIOR TO THE CRASH. *JB

AFTER TAKING 90-DEGREE RIGHT TURN FROM STREET INTO PARKING LOT THE ABILITY TO STEER AND BRAKE 2004 CHEVROLET SUBURBAN WAS LOST, ALTHOUGH FORWARD MOTION WAS STILL POSSIBLE (I.E. THE VEHICLE DID NOT STALL). AFTER RESTARTING VEHICLE FORWARD MOTION WAS POSSIBLE BUT STEERING AND BRAKING WERE STILL NOT WORKING. UPON A SECOND RESTART STEERING AND BRAKING WERE RESTORED, ALTHOUGH SOME LIGHTS ON THE INSTRUMENT PANEL FLICKERED. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED TO APPLEWAY CHEVROLET IN SPOKANE, WA. THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT AT THE DEALERSHIP INITIALLY INDICATED THERE WAS NO PROBLEM WITH THE VEHICLE BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT REPRODUCE THE DEFECTIVE BEHAVIOR. SUBSEQUENTLY, THE SERVICE DEPARTMENT WAS INSTRUCTED TO KEEP THE VEHICLE UNTIL THE PROBLEM IS IDENTIFIED AND RESOLVED.*AK

Mileage: 5,800

BRAKES FAILED WHEN APPLIED AT LOW SPEED WITH PLENTY OF ROOM TO SPARE WHICH RESULTED IN A COLLISION. *PH CONSUMER MADE A SEARCH IN THE INTERNET AND FOUND A SIMILAR COMPLAINT (ODI: 10056005). *LA