2019 FORD EXPEDITION Engine Problems
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When you try to accelerate quickly, even when you’re switching lanes on the interstate or just driving down the road, the car will sometimes pop out of gear or something and almost comes to a complete stop causing you to almost get rear ended. I’ve almost been hit several times because the car stops and won’t go.
The Cam Phaser failed in 2023 and 2025. It kept the vehicle from starting. The transmission has failed twice in the past two years.
In June 2024, my 2019 Ford Expedition experienced serious transmission and powertrain problems. Diagnostic testing identified catalyst efficiency codes (P0430), and I was given a repair estimate that included catalytic converter replacement. The vehicle also displayed repeated “Service Engine Soon” and “Powertrain Malfunction/Reduced Power” warnings. Because the vehicle became undrivable and the repair costs were unaffordable, I was forced to release it to auction in June 2024, resulting in a significant financial loss. In April 2025, Ford issued Recall 24E13 acknowledging that PCM programming errors could falsely trigger catalyst efficiency codes (such as P0430), potentially leading to unnecessary catalytic converter replacements, exactly the condition my vehicle experienced. This recall defect directly contributed to the loss I suffered, as I still owed about $11,000 on the vehicle when I could no longer use it. I have already opened a case with Ford (Case #CXH05645573C2W6R6), but I have not received meaningful assistance. When I contacted Ford Customer Service, I was not offered escalation or resolution. I was only told to call another phone number, which left my case unresolved. I respectfully request that NHTSA review Ford’s handling of this defect, including the financial impact on owners like myself who incurred substantial losses before the recall was announced.
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that while starting the vehicle, there was an abnormal clattering and clanking sound coming from the engine. There were no warning lights illuminated. The contact stated that the failure was a known issue with the vehicle. The vehicle was taken to the local dealer, where it was diagnosed with engine failure and cam phaser rattle. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was contacted and opened a case. The failure mileage was approximately 115,000.
Mileage: 115,000
Engine rattle during start up
- cam phaser rattle, yes. TSB-23-2143 -possible engine auto start failure while stopped at stoplight, or failure while driving -yes, dealer diagnosed multiple times -yes, dealer -no
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated while driving 50 MPH, there was a rattling sound coming from the engine. The contact pulled over to side of the road, turned off and restarted the vehicle and the vehicle started to operate as intended. The check engine warning light was illuminated. An independent mechanic was contacted. The vehicle was taken to an independent mechanic where it was diagnosed and determined that the cam phaser needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was notified of the failure but offered no assistance. The contact was referred to the NHTSA Hotline for assistance. The failure mileage was 150,000.
Mileage: 150,000
Catalytic converter signaled efficiency is low after the Emissions Recall 24 E 13 had been fixed 2025. There are 5 other expeditions in the dealership with the exact same problem. Had recall fixed one month later check engine light came on. Same problem emissions signal. Ford won’t fix it as they claim “it would have been caught during inspections of the vehicle when they run codes during any kind of service.” Even though it would not have been because the recall just came out May 2025 for it to correctly issue said signal.
My transmission started losing power on acceleration, hard jerk/bang when shifting into gear, transmission slipping, loss of power between shifts
Transmissions CDF Drum is failing annd causing my transmission to go out of gear and slam into first and I just preformed “cam phaser” repairs exceeding $3400. A vehicle this new should not need these repairs. There’s 1000s of complaints online and it’s sick and twisted that Ford is not forced to recall these issues.
There is a known defect in a solenoid where it doesn't allow the transmission to upshift, it gets stuck. The check engine light has come on and the engine starts to struggle.
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that upon starting the vehicle, there was an abnormal rattling sound coming from the engine compartment. The contact stated that after the engine reached normal operating temperatures, the rattling ceased; however, the failure became a regular occurrence. No warning lights were illuminated. The vehicle was taken to the dealer, who diagnosed a failure with the cam phasers. The vehicle was not repaired. After investigating the failure, the contact related the failure to Customer Satisfaction Program: 21N03. The manufacturer was notified of the failure, a case was opened, and the contact was referred to the NHTSA Hotline for assistance. The approximate failure mileage was 65,000.
Mileage: 65,000
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that while driving at various speeds, an abnormal rattling sound was coming from the engine. The check engine warning light was illuminated, and DTC: P0014; was displayed. The vehicle was taken to an independent mechanic where it was diagnosed that the timing chain and cam phasers had failed and needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The vehicle was then taken to the local dealer where it was confirmed that the timing chain and cam phasers had failed and needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was notified of the failure but denied assistance in covering the cost of the repair. The contact was referred to the NHTSA Hotline for assistance. The failure mileage was approximately 113,000.
Mileage: 113,000
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated while driving on several occasions at various speeds, the vehicle went into LIMP Mode and lost motive power. The vehicle was taken to a dealer, where it was diagnosed and determined that the cam phasers needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was notified of the failure and informed the contact that the vehicle was 6,000 miles outside of the warranty. The failure mileage was approximately 80,000.
Mileage: 80,000
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that on several occasions when the vehicle was started and running, the contact observed a rattling noise for several seconds coming from the engine compartment. The vehicle was taken to a dealer where it was diagnosed that the cam phasers had failed and needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was notified of the failure. The failure mileage was approximately 65,000.
Mileage: 65,000
My vehicle is having cam phaser issues and ford will not repair the issue. This was identified in customer satisfaction program 21N03 but I did not receive notification of the repair.
Would like to determine why vehicle was not included in recall 21B10 or 21N03 for cam phaser rattle.
Cam chaser still rattles when starting even after recall was fixed. Getting worse with every drive.
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that the engine was hard to crank during cold weather. There was an abnormal rattling sound coming from the vehicle. The service engine soon warning light was illuminated. The vehicle was taken to the local dealer, where it was diagnosed that the virtual cam timing was not operating as designed. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was contacted and confirmed that the vehicle was not covered under recall. The contact was referred to the NHTSA Hotline for assistance. The failure mileage was approximately 98,034.
Mileage: 98,034
While driving lost power, could not drive, exhaust valve failure
Vehicle has a rattle upon starting. Also the vehicle is shifting harshly and slipping. Sometimes the vehicle will occasionally stop accelerating in the middle of the road. The RPMs will rise but the vehicle stops having power. After a minute it finally jerks and the vehicle will go again. I have had the vehicle examined by a technician and have been told that it is the cam phasers, CDF drum/transmission, and torque converter.
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that there was a ticking sound coming while starting the vehicle. The contact stated that the ticking sound was consistent. The vehicle was taken to the dealer where it was diagnosed; however, the vehicle was not repaired. The contact related the failure to Customer Satisfaction Number: CSP - 21N03 - Supplement 4. The manufacturer was contacted and made aware of the issue and a case was opened. The failure mileage was 80,000.
Mileage: 80,000
Catalytic converter has gone bad error code Po430
I was on the freeway going between 65-70mph when I felt a hard shift and lost all acceleration. The truck started to slow down and the wrench light came on. I was able to coast to the shoulder and turn my hazards on while the wrench light and warnings were going. I parked the truck and waited for my husband to help. The truck sat for approximately 20 minutes when it was turned back on. There were no lights on the dash and the wrench warning went away [XXX] husband was able to drive it home. I had my three kids in the truck and it was a terrifying experience. I took it to get scanned and it gave us a throttle body code. My vehicle supposedly isn't affected but this experience tells me that myself and my kids are in more danger than what is being claimed. INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6)
My expedition was reprogrammed when I bought it due to the Cam phaser rattle. This did not help. I was told this was normal and would not effect the engine. I had taken it in a second time to be reprogrammed an given the same information. My Ford service says fifth cylinder misfire. The car shakes and idles hard. The spark plug and parts were replaced as suggested with no change. Took it to the shop and was told I now need a new engine due to an internal failure of the engine. I called Ford and they said there is no recall on this year. The Cam phaser reprogram was a customer satisfaction and not a recall. I asked if they would offer assistance since now I need a new engine. They will not. I called about ordering a new engine. Iwas was told there is over 250 people waiting for an engine as they are backordered by the Ford service department. It will be $10,000 plus 1200 for the core plus install. There are no availble engine due to the backorder and you must pay for the parts to get on the waitlist. The earliest they will release them is in November. How are there this many people waiting for an engine and no recall? This is a safety issue as all cylinders are not firing and there is not enough compression to make the vehicle run correctly. The check engine light appears solid upon starting the car and then will start blinking. The vehicle was inspected by an independent shop as I took my expedition to Ford for 60,000 service and they put the wrong fluid in my differential and then I had to have this rebuilt by them. After telling them something was wrong multiple times after they gave it back. So I do not trust to take it back to them. The independent shop confirmed this is a problem with these engines. I took it in due to the check engine light and hard idle that was getting worse.
Mileage: 107,884
On three separate occasions, my vehicle lost the ability to accelerate. The first time I was attempting to pass slow moving farm equipment when my vehicle lost power, had a loud vibrating/rattling noise and multiple dashboard warnings flashed. Luckily, I was able to merge back into my lane and pull off the side of the road. I took the vehicle in for service and was told I needed new phasers. Once I got my vehicle back, I was still experiencing issues. Fortunately, the next two times my vehicle lost power I was driving at low speeds. I did have my kids with me on one occasion and it scared them quite a bit. I am not sure what the loud noise is but they stopped riding with me after that. Thank goodness I was not driving my family on the highway when experiencing a power failure. My vehicle is back at a dealership waiting for a new transmission.
Mileage: 137,973
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that occasionally while her husband drives at various speeds, the vehicle would fail to accelerate as intended when depressing the accelerator pedal. In addition, the contact stated the rear truck door had fallen on her husband's head a few times in the past and would only open halfway. Minor injuries were sustained but medical attention was not sought. No warning light illuminated. On occasion, the contact mentioned that the automatic step on the front passenger side would not lower as intended and would remain up while pressing the switch. The contact also stated that the front hood does not remain open independently and would shut. An appointment with the dealer was scheduled to inspect the vehicle. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure and confirmed that the extended warranty would not cover the failures. The failure mileage was approximately 65,000.
Mileage: 65,000
I am being told that the Cam Phasers need to be replaced. This is a well known issue to Ford. They did a programming adjustment in 2021, and then did replacements only if you had continued issues up until Jan 2023. I have issues now, and they are telling me I am not covered. The cam phasers have been redesigned so they know they installed poorly designed parts originally. This is an almost $4,000 repair.
The vehicle has the known cam phaser issue commonly reported on 3.5L Ecoboost engines. It is a known problem, that the dealership is so aware of they were able to provide a repair quote on the spot. The engine had less than 50,000 miles when the issue was first discovered. The safety issue is the engine failing while driving could place someone in an unsafe situation depending on how and when it failed.
After the engine would warm up a loud knocking started without warning lights. After driving it to the dealer they stated, "You need a new engine, it probably had a blown rear main". The engine has 154,550 nearly all freeway miles. Regular maintenance. No prior issues other that a deer strike, which was repaired.
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated while driving 50 MPH and attempting to accelerate, the vehicle inadvertently lost motive power. The contact was able to pull over to the shoulder of the roadway, where the failure persisted. The service engine warning light was illuminated. The vehicle was taken to the dealer, who diagnosed a failure with the transmission. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was notified of the failure, a case was opened, and the contact was referred to the NHTSA Hotline for assistance. The failure mileage was 55,000.
Mileage: 55,000
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that on several occasions while driving at various speeds, the vehicle lost motive power. The contact stated that on several occasions, the power train and check engine warning lights illuminated but then disappeared. The vehicle was steered to the side of the road and idled until the RPM became normal. The vehicle was taken to a dealer where it was diagnosed that there was a leak in the turbo hose. The vehicle was repaired but the failure reoccurred a week later. The manufacturer was notified of the failure. The failure mileage was approximately 38,000.
Mileage: 38,000
Vehicle randomly downshifts into first gear and get stuck in higher gears, allowing no acceleration, causing serious traffic accident
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that there was an abnormal rattling sound coming from the vehicle while cold starting the vehicle. The contact stated that the sound went away after several minutes. There were no warning lights illuminated. The contact called the local dealer, but the vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired. The manufacturer was contacted and referred the contact to the local dealer for diagnostic testing and to the NHTSA Hotline for assistance. The failure mileage was approximately 74,000.
Mileage: 74,000
The car will randomly downshift or not upshift, drastically changing the handeling. It will get stuck in gears (Like 7th) and then not accelerate in traffic from a stop. The shifts are harsh enought that the tires with loose traction in wet conditions... The car is unsafe to drive and the dealer can't find a solution, other than I pay for a new transmission. The problems started with a software update for shifting into 1st gear at speed. This happens too often!
My Variable Valve Timing Actuator is not functioning properly only after 60,000 miles. Jacob's Auto Repair in Sturgis, SD had confirmed the problem. There is already a case for this problem. But my VIN number is not listed in the case and it should be as it fits all criteria. My check engine light is on.
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated while driving on several occasions at various speeds, there was a thumping sound coming from the vehicle. The check engine warning light illuminated. The vehicle was steered to the side of the road and turned off. The vehicle was towed to the residence. Additionally on one occasion when the vehicle was shifted into reverse, the vehicle failed to respond as intended. The vehicle was taken to an independent mechanic where it was diagnosed that parts of the transmission needed to be replaced and an engine error code was retrieved. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was notified of the failure. The failure mileage was 75,000.
Mileage: 75,000
Since we bought our car, it has had a rattle upon startup. This was originally a recall, which we got repaired, but this repair did not make the rattle go away. I then had a transmission problem and had to have the transmission overhauled due to it having violent, jerky, unpredictable shifting between gears. When I mentioned the rattle again while they were fixing the transmission, they said that it’s a known problem with Ford cam phasers around our model year. They informed me that the fix offered in the recall was an electronic fix, but the actual parts need to be replaced and the recall didn’t cover that. The parts replacement was almost $4000, and from my research, not replacing these parts can cause the engine to stop functioning properly over time. In the past two weeks, I have been getting safety notices from my car that there are timing issues that need to be serviced. Contacting Ford did not help as there is no active recall for this problem. From my research, there is an active lawsuit open against Ford for this cam phaser problem with my year model car. Overall, cam phasers play a critical role in enhancing the efficiency, performance, and reliability of 10-speed engines by enabling precise control over the engine’s valve timing. However, after just replacing my transmission we cannot afford to pay another $4000 for this error. Ford said they cannot help unless there is a recall on the vehicle.
Mileage: 113,598
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated while driving at an undisclosed speed, the vehicle lost motive power. The vehicle was taken to the dealer where it was diagnosed with a failed VCT phaser, a failed cam shaft sensor, O2 sensors, and a failed catalytic converter sensor. The contact was informed that the VCT phaser, cam shaft sensor, O2 sensor, and catalytic converter sensor needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. Additionally, the contact stated that the failure had occurred previously in March of 2024 however, the independent mechanic was unable to duplicate the failure. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure. The contact was advised to contact the NHTSA Hotline to report the failure. The failure mileage was approximately 118,000.
Mileage: 118,000
Loud knocking from engine. No check engine light came on. Dealer found the cam phasers faulty and could possibly lead to engine failure if not repaired which would put occupants in danger. Banner Ford in Monroe Louisiana performed repair at owners expense.
Ford issued a recall on the cam phasers for some vehicles this year make and model. Ours was never recalled but obviously faulty as we are having to replace the motor at 80000 miles.
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that while driving at an undisclosed speed and attempting to accelerate, the vehicle jerked and the RPM increased quickly, after which the vehicle briefly lost motive power. The vehicle returned to normal functionality, but the failure became a regular occurrence. The check engine warning light was illuminated. The vehicle was taken to the dealer, who was unable to duplicate the failure. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was notified of the failure but referred the contact to the NHTSA Hotline for assistance. The failure mileage was unknown.
Transmission and shifting problems under 70,000 miles. Also the ac compressor and blower has gone out.
My expedition since I bought it completely turns off on me on roads and highways and throws up a wrench symbol and check engine light. Everytime I bring it in to the dealer they keep clearing codes and never fixing anything even tho I have extended warranty. They have had my car for 5-6 months maybe longer but the last time they had it for over a month said everything is fine for our roadtrip. Well the car turned off on me and died in the middle of the Utah Highway... had to be towed. was told it has 70 plus alerts
Not sure if this is the right place but it’s the cam Phaser rattle issue on the Ford 3.5 it happened to my 2012 F150 and now it happened on my 2019 expedition started about 80,000 miles now has 115 and they have refused to pay. This has been happening for at least 12 years with no accountability to ford Something needs to be done because it’s like a $4500 repair and they know that it’s a problem with these engines, but they keep selling them without fixing the problem please make them do a recall on this issue
Cam phasers are making loud noise on cold start
Ford has a recall for 2019 Expeditions. This recall replaces the Cam Phaser, which if this fails, the vehicles engine will not start. This leaves the occupants of this vehicle stranded. Our 2019 Expedition was experiencing these issues and ford acted on the recall, replacing the cam phaser at 58,000 miles. This repair/ replacement would cost the owner well over $2000.00 of out of pocket expense. Our vehicle is currently experiencing the exact same issue at 113,000 miles and Ford will not honor the recall a second time. The math doesn't lie. The life of this cam phaser is lasting under 60,000 miles. If this is a know defect by Ford Motor Co., why are they not being held accountable to fix the underlying issue, or at a minimum continue to repair the known issue?
Cam Phasers were replaced in Oct 2021 due to a service bulletin. The cam phasers are defective and have to be replaced again. This is all over forums, social media as well as dealers knowledge. Ford has redesigned the cam phasers but they refuse to cover a replacement. How is this legal when there are so many with the same problem! My Expedition is at the dealer and they have determined the issue and even filed a claim with Ford. Ford denied the claim. I don’t understand how this is even possible. This is not a small number of people with this problem. It’s massively widespread.
My Ford Expedition has lost power 4 times requiring me to pull off the Interstate and have the car towed. I have been driving 75-80 mph each time this has happened. It is as if the car takes a big deep breath, and then loses all power. It failed most recently on Halloween 2023, and then again in March of 2024. Prior to these two times, the car has lost power 2 other times. It has always been serviced at a Ford dealership. All three times INCLUDING this last time the dash lights on the car have read, "powertrain failure" and "pre-collision brake assist not available". When it failed in March, even though it registered a code both on my dash and in my Ford Pass App, the dealership said they could not reproduce the problem therefore, there was nothing they could fix. I am scared to get behind the wheel of this car. I also do not want to sell it to anyone else for fear they will have the same problem. Cars don't just lose power while driving 75 mph. It is dangerous and a definite safety concern. It is not like I am driving a pinto. This was a brand new car, is fully paid for, has clean maintenance records, and is an expensive vehicle. It has been well taken care of and should not have power failure four times at only 4 years old. It is terrifying to be driving at high speed and lose power. I have been very lucky to not have caused a secondary accident on the freeway, or been in an accident myself when this has happened.
In May 2023, our 2019 Expedition Max began experiencing intermittent stuttering at various speeds. Initially, we didn't consider it a major issue since the Check Engine light never illuminated. However, the problem worsened over time. Upon seeking advice, we took it to the dealer for inspection, only to be told a day later that they found no issues. We suspect the technician simply connected a diagnostic machine to the car's computer to check for faults. Despite our concerns, we ultimately had to replace the entire transmission, a process that dragged on for four months. My main concern is the car's apparent inability to detect serious engine problems. We originally purchased the vehicle to accommodate our large family, but now I'm deeply worried about their safety. This raises serious questions about the reliability and safety features of this model, prompting me to urge for a recall and replacement of faulty components.
When I cold start my 2019 Ford Expedition Limited it has a ticking noise under the hood coming from the engine. Remote start or in the cab button start noise happens. Would like this fixed asap as the manufacturer Ford is aware of the problem. I’ve own a 2004 Ford explorer xlt never had any problems except wear and tear. Silverado was my 1st truck no problems. I love ford trucks, I’m embarrassed by this. Please honor your slogan “Built Ford Tough” Thank you
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that while starting the vehicle and driving 25 MPH, the service engine warning light was illuminated. The contact stated that upon starting the vehicle there was an abnormal rattling and ticking noise heard. The local dealer was contacted, but the vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired. The manufacturer was contacted and referred the contact to the NHTSA Hotline. The approximate failure mileage was 40,000.
Mileage: 40,000
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated while driving and depressing the accelerator pedal, the vehicle failed to exceed 60 MPH. There was no warning light illuminated. The vehicle was taken to the dealer, where an unknown software update was performed. Additionally, the contact stated that while driving at various speeds, the vehicle stalled. The contact also stated that the vehicle overheated while driving and while idle. The contact stated that the engine had overheated to 230-240 degrees, and the engine was shuddering while driving. There was no warning light illuminated. The vehicle was taken to the dealer, where the water pump, the TCM, the battery and unknown parts were replaced; however, the failure persisted. The vehicle was taken to a second dealer, Suburban Ford of Ferndale (21600 Woodward Ave, Ferndale, MI 48220), where it was diagnosed that the cam phasers had failed and needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The contact related the failure to Ford Campaign Number: [XXX]. The manufacturer was notified of the failure and informed the contact that the vehicle was not covered. The manufacturer referred the contact to the NHTSA Hotline for assistance. The failure mileage was approximately 28,000. INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6)
Mileage: 28,000
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that after starting the vehicle, there was a loud knocking and rattling sound coming from the engine compartment and the vehicle would shake and vibrate abnormally. The contact stated that the failure had progressed and was present while the engine was idling and while parking the vehicle. The cause of the failure was not yet determined. The manufacturer and local dealer were notified of the failure, but no assistance was offered. The failure mileage was 68,000.
Mileage: 68,000
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that a loud, abnormal, knocking sound would emit from the vehicle upon start of the engine without engine. The contact also stated that the vehicle would vibrate while either parked or idle at a stop light. The vehicle was taken to a dealer where the vehicle was inspected; however, no defect was found with the vehicle. The manufacturer had yet to be notified of the failure. The vehicle had yet to be serviced or diagnosed for the failure. The failure mileage was approximately 68,000.
Mileage: 68,000
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that when the vehicle was started, he heard an abnormal rattling sound. The contact called the dealer and was informed that the abnormal sound was due to failed cam phaser sensors. The vehicle was taken to another dealer where it was diagnosed with failed cam phaser sensors. The contact was informed that the cam phaser sensors needed to be replaced. The vehicle was repaired. The contact stated that while driving at an undisclosed speed, the check engine and the low oil pressure warning lights illuminated. Additionally, the oil gauge was in the red. The vehicle was towed to the dealer where it was diagnosed with a failed oil pump and oil pan. The contact was informed that the oil pump and oil pan needed to be replaced. The vehicle was currently being repaired. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure but provided no assistance. The failure mileage was approximately 84,000.
Mileage: 84,000
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated while driving 55 MPH, the vehicle failed to accelerate and lost motive power. While driving uphill, the vehicle failed to accelerate. There were no warning lights illuminated. The vehicle was taken to the local dealer, where it was diagnosed that the cam phaser and the differential pinion seal needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was notified of the failure and opened. The contact was then referred to the NHTSA Hotline. The failure mileage was approximately 80,000.
Mileage: 80,000
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that during the initial start-up, there was a rattling sound coming from the engine department. There were no warning lights illuminated. The contact stated that the vehicle was repaired: however, the failure recurred after several months. The contact stated that a year later the failure became persistent. The vehicle was taken to the dealer where it was diagnosed and determined that the power train control module for the cam phaser had failed. The cam phasers were replaced. The vehicle had been returned to the dealer, however, was not repaired another time. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure, and it was confirmed that the repair was no longer covered under warranty. The contact was referred to the NHTSA Hotline. The approximate failure mileage was 71,000.
Mileage: 71,000
August 08, 2023 on highway while driving, powertrain malfunction/reduced power warning appear, followed by a pre-collision assist failure and an electrical fault with turbocharger sensor. Pulled over, waited 30 minutes, restarted and all warnings went away. 9/11/23 vehicle diagnosed with cam phaser failure. 11/22/23 cam phaser repair completed. 11/23/23 while driving on highway, same series of events as August occurred. However, this time the service engine soon light did not go away. Returned home on 11/25/23. On 11/26/23, while driving in neighborhood the engine lost all mechanical power(ability to steer, provide any acceleration, or shift gears). Vehicle towed to dealership. Diagnosed with a snapped timing chain and associated timing components (e.g., pistons). Had this occurred while driving on highway or other major thoroughfare, not only would the occupants lives been at risk but the lives of those around me would have been at risk because the ability to maneuver the vehicle was impaired and loss of control would have occurred.
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that there was an abnormal rattling sound coming from the vehicle at a cold start. There was no warning light illuminated. The vehicle was taken to the dealer and the contact was informed that the cam phasers needed to be replaced. The manufacturer was notified of the failure and the contact was informed that there were no recalls on the VIN. The vehicle was not repaired. The failure mileage was approximately 81,000.
Mileage: 81,000
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that during cold starts there was a loud rattling sound coming from the engine compartment. The vehicle was taken to the local dealer who diagnosed and determined that the cam phasers were faulty and needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not yet repaired. The manufacturer was notified of the failure, but no assistance was offered. The failure mileage was 60,000.
Mileage: 60,000
In June of 2022 (50,284 miles) we were experiencing hard shifting and noises upon starting. We took it to our local dealership in Virginia who did an upgrade on the powertrain control module and told me what I was experiencing was normal for this transmission and not a concern. In December of 2022 (57,715 miles), my husband was driving our expedition when it suddenly downshifted, would not accelerate, and a warning popped up saying “drive mode unavailable”, in addition to a wrench and engine light displaying on the dashboard. We immediately had it towed to our local dealership where they diagnosed the problem as needing a MAP sensor replacement even though there was no codes showing. In March of 2023 (at 63,20 miles) while traveling with my 2 young children down the highway at 75 mph in a desolate area, my car made a noise, downshifted very hard, and lost ability to accelerate. The same warning popped up stating “drive mode unavailable”. I had to maneuver my vehicle to the shoulder in traffic traveling at a high rate of speed with my children in the car. I again had it towed to a ford dealership where they stated it was due to the previous dealership only replacing one MAP sensor so they replaced both. On October 28, 2023 (at approximately 72,000 miles) while traveling at 75 mph on a highway in a desolate area, my car again downshifted, lost the ability to accelerate, and had the same pop up stating “drive mode unavailable” with the same warning lights as the previous 2 times. I had to navigate across multiple lanes to the shoulder in low visibility pouring rain with vehicles driving at a high rate of speed. My car has been at a dealership for 2 weeks now and they have diagnosed the issue is my cam phasers and the repair is for them to be replaced. I opened a case with Ford customer experience who agreed to pay 40% of the cost. I have been put in dangerous situations due to Ford’s refusal to put out a recall when it is a known issue.
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that during cold starts there was a loud rattling sound was coming from the engine compartment. The contact stated that while driving at an undisclosed speed, the check engine warning light remained illuminated. The vehicle was taken to the local mechanic who determined that the engine cam phasers and engine timing chain were faulty and needed to be replaced. The vehicle was repaired. The local dealer and manufacturer were notified of the failure, but no assistance was offered. The contact stated that the cam phasers were previously replaced but failed a second time. The failure mileage was 82,419.
Mileage: 82,419
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact received a recall notice for Ford Campaign Number: 21B10. The contact took the vehicle to a dealer where a software update was performed on the vehicle. The contact stated that immediately upon return of the vehicle, an abnormal thud sound came from the vehicle. There was no warning light illuminated. The vehicle was taken back to the dealer where the contact was informed that the cam phasers needed to be replaced. The manufacturer was notified of the failure and provided a case number. The vehicle was not repaired and remained in the possession of the dealer. The failure mileage was approximately 52,000.
Mileage: 52,000
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated while driving at an undisclosed speed, the vehicle failed to shift out of 4th gear. The contact then stated that the vehicle failed to shift in the intended gears. The contact stated that while the accelerator pedal was depressed, the engine revved but the vehicle failed to respond. The contact stated that when the vehicle finally accelerated, the vehicle shook violently. The vehicle was taken to a dealer where it was diagnosed that the cam phaser and transmission had failed and needed to be replaced. The transmission was replaced but the cam phaser had not yet been replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was notified of the failure and the contact was transferred to the NHTSA Hotline. The failure mileage was approximately 80,000.
Mileage: 80,000
Complete failure of the timing chain components. Vehicle completely shut down while driving on the interstate, almost causing me to get rear ended. The problem has been diagnosed and confirmed by an independent service center. The vehicle has been inspected by the dealership. They stated this is a very common issue and "they're not sure why Ford had done a recall on the timing chain and timing chain components." No warning lights ever came on, the only symptom that occurred was the timing chain rattle on cold starts.
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated while starting the vehicle, the vehicle started shaking abnormally upon startup. The contact also heard an abnormal sound coming from the engine compartment. No warning light was illuminated. The vehicle was diagnosed by the dealer. The contact was informed that the camshaft phase sensor was the cause of the failure. The vehicle had not been repaired. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure and determined that the vehicle was not under warranty. The failure mileage was approximately 30,000.
Mileage: 30,000
Car has 49700 miles. I was traveling on highway at speed and tried to accelerate to merge into exit lane traffic and engine and power train completely cut out and transmission failure light with wrench came on. Luckily cars behind me were able to slow down and avoid an accident but this could have been deadly. Thank God my children were not in the car. Car was previously taken to dealership in January of 2023 for transmission shifting issues and repair work was done. Car is also “hard shifting” into gear from park, causing whole car to jerk. Car routinely “hard shifts” when accelerating onto highway and “hard shifts” when slowing in rush hour traffic.
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated upon cold starting the vehicle, the engine made abnormal rattling sounds. The vehicle was turned off and restarted; however, the failure persisted for approximately 3-seconds. The contact stated that the failure had been recurring while cold starting the vehicle. The vehicle was taken to the dealer, where it was diagnosed that the cam phasers had failed. The vehicle was not repaired. The contact related the failure to Ford Campaign Number: 21N03. The manufacturer was notified of the failure and informed the contact that the VIN was not included, and that the campaign had expired. The failure mileage was approximately 80,400.
Mileage: 80,400
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that when his wife started the vehicle, she heard an abnormal rattling and knocking sound coming from under the hood. The vehicle was taken to the dealer where it was diagnosed with cam phaser failure. The contact was informed that the cam phasers needed to be replaced; however, the vehicle was not repaired. The contact stated that the failure had been reoccurring for almost two years. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure. The contact was notified by the manufacturer and dealer that there had been two safety recalls for the cam phasers however, the VIN was not included. The contact was referred to the NHTSA Hotline for assistance. The failure mileage was approximately 50,000.
Mileage: 50,000
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that there was a loud knocking sound coming from the engine during cold starts. The contact had taken the vehicle to a dealer however, the dealer failed to find a failure. Upon investigation, the contact discovered that the failure was related to the cam phaser; however, there were no recalls on the VIN. The manufacturer was notified of the failure and the contact was informed that the vehicle did not qualify under a Customer Satisfaction Program. The vehicle was not repaired. The failure mileage was approximately 30,000.
Mileage: 30,000
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated while starting the vehicle, the vehicle made an abnormally loud rattling sound. The vehicle was taken to the dealer, where it was diagnosed with cam phaser failure. The contact was informed that all four cam phasers needed to be replaced; however, the vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure, and a case was filed. The contact stated that the failure was like the Manufacturer Recall Campaign Number: 21N03 however, the vehicle was not included in the recall. The failure mileage was approximately 43,000.
Mileage: 43,000
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated while starting the vehicle, there was an abnormal sound coming from the vehicle. The contact stated no warning light was illuminated. The contact took the vehicle to an independent mechanic, and the vehicle was diagnosed with needing the Variable Timing Control (VTC) actuator to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. Upon investigation, the contact associated the failure with TSB: 21-2119; however, the VIN was not included. A dealer was not contacted. The manufacturer had been notified of the failure. The failure mileage was approximately 77,000.
Mileage: 77,000
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that while starting the vehicle, the vehicle made an abnormal sound. The contact related the failure to Customer Satisfaction Program 21N03: (Cam Phaser). The vehicle was taken to the dealer, who informed the contact that the cam timing unit needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure. The failure mileage was approximately 148,000.
Mileage: 148,000
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that while starting the vehicle, the engine was shuddering. No warning light was illuminated. The vehicle was taken to the dealer, where it was diagnosed that the cam phaser needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure and advised the contact to file a complaint with the NHTSA Hotline. The contact related the failure to Customer Satisfaction Program: 21N03 (Cam Phaser Replacement); however, the VIN was not included. The failure mileage was 67,469.
Mileage: 67,469
I own a 2019 Expedition XLT. I was traveling on the highway; I was in the right lane and was stuck behind a slow moving vehicle. I put on my blinker and waited for an opening in traffic, to move into the middle lane. Once there was an opening, I pressed the gas to accelerate into the lane. While the truck should have properly shifted and accelerated; instead the powertrain completely disengaged and I lost all power. The RPM's jumped all the way up. The truck was revving so high, but it was actually slowing down. I took my foot of the gas pedal and as the RPM came back down, the transmission slammed back into place with a horrible loud clunking sound that jolted the entire vehicle. After that, I was finally able to accelerate. This same situation has happened to me on several separate occasions. It is very scary having my 3 children in the vehicle and it losing power as I'm trying to make a move to be safe.
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that while his wife was driving at an undisclosed speed, the vehicle was shaking while idling with the check engine warning light illuminated. The vehicle was taken to the dealer, where it was diagnosed that the camshaft phaser needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure and confirmed a credit $2,500 toward the cost of the repair. The contact related the failure to Customer Satisfaction Program: 21N03 (Cam Phaser Replacement); however, the VIN was not included. The failure mileage was 61,941.
Mileage: 61,941
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that the low oil pressure warning light was illuminated on the instrument panel. The vehicle was taken to the dealer where it was diagnosed with a defective oil pump. Additionally, the contact was also informed that the cam phasers were defective and needed to be replaced. The manufacturer was notified of the failure, and the contact was referred to the NHTSA Hotline for assistance. The vehicle was not repaired. The failure mileage was approximately 77,000.
Mileage: 77,000
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that an abnormal rattling sound was coming from the engine. There was no warning light illuminated. The vehicle was taken to the dealer and the contact was informed that the cam phasers where defective and needed to be replaced. The manufacturer was notified of the failure and the contact was referred to the NHTSA Hotline for assistance. The vehicle was not repaired. The failure mileage was approximately 58,000.
Mileage: 58,000
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition The contact stated while at a stop light, the vehicle started shaking and the contact heard a rattling sound coming from the vehicle. The check engine warning light illuminated. The vehicle was taken to the dealer and the contact was informed that the cam phaser needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was contacted no assistance was provided. The contact was advised to contact the NHTSA Hotline. The failure mileage was 82,000.
Mileage: 82,000
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that upon cold starts, there was a loud rattling sound coming from the engine compartment. The vehicle was taken to the local dealer who diagnosed that the engine cam phasers had failed and needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not yet repaired. The manufacturer was notified of the failure, but no assistance was provided. The contact was informed that the vehicle was previously service under a Manufacturer Extended Warranty Coverage for the failure. The failure mileage was 77,000.
Mileage: 77,000
This vehicle with 72,000 miles on it was experiencing a rattle upon start on cold mornings for about two months, it didn't happen every time and only on initial start. Mechanic couldn't get the incident to happen in his presence to diagnose and no codes reported from computer diagnostic equipment. In February 2023, the vehicle lost power while highway driving and seemed to having problems shifting. The check engine and powertrain malfunction indicator both came on. Drove the vehicle immediately to mechanic. Booster sensor replacement was indicated by computer diagnostic and was replaced. On 4/16/2023 the check engine light came on briefly while driving and then went out and did not come back on. On 4/18/2023 while driving on the highway the vehicle started making a loud clanking with black smoke from exhaust pipe. We had the vehicle towed to mechanic. Over 30 diagnostic codes reported and mechanic recommended we take the vehicle to a Ford dealership. We had the vehicle towed to the local Ford dealership and have been informed that this 4 year old, 72,000 mile vehicle needs a complete engine replacement for $18,222. They do not know what caused the problem without pulling the whole engine and opening it up, but recommend a full replacement. We have contacted Ford and opened a case with them, but since the vehicle had a 60,000 mile power train warranty there is nothing that Ford is willing to do.
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated while driving into the driveway and shifting into park, the shift indicator message stated that the vehicle was not in park; however, the contact was still able to turn off the vehicle. On another occasion, while driving 15 MPH and entering the highway, the vehicle lost motive power with the check engine warning light illuminated. The warning light disappeared, and the vehicle operated as intended. The vehicle was taken to the dealer and the contact was informed that the transmission needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was contacted, and the contact was informed that the vehicle was not under recall. The manufacturer did not provide any further assistance. The failure mileage was 92,000.
Mileage: 92,000
There is an issue with the 3.5L GTDI engine cam phasers, identical to known recall FSA 21N03. This vehicle was not included in the mentioned recall as the manufacture location was other than those listed in recall FSA 21N03.
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated while his wife was starting the vehicle, she heard an abnormal sound coming from the vehicle. The contact stated no warning light was illuminated. The contact took the vehicle to the local dealer, where it was diagnosed with needing the Variable Camshaft Timing (VCT) unit to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer had been informed of the failure. The failure mileage was approximately 52,000.
Mileage: 52,000
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that while driving at various speeds, the vehicle unexpectedly downshifted. There was no warning light illuminated. The vehicle was taken to an unknown dealer, where it was diagnosed that the solenoid valve was defective. The contact stated that the vehicle was returned to her a week later; however, the failure reoccurred while driving the vehicle to her residence. The dealer was notified, and a second appointment was scheduled. The manufacturer was notified of the failure, but no assistance was provided. The vehicle was not repaired. The failure mileage was approximately 43,000.
Mileage: 43,000
My 2019 Ford Expedition is experiencing engine shudder. This started about 3 weeks ago and is starting to happen more and more.
The contact owns a 2019 Ford expedition. The contact stated that while starting the vehicle, the vehicle made an abnormal sound. The vehicle was taken to an independent mechanic, where it was diagnosed with faulty cam phasers. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure and suggested that the contact file a complaint with the NHTSA Hotline. The failure mileage was approximately 50,000.
Mileage: 50,000
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated upon starting the vehicle, he heard an abnormal sound coming from the engine on several occasions. There was no warning light illuminated. The vehicle was taken to the local dealer who informed the contact that the VIN was not included in Customer Satisfaction Program Number: 21N03 (Cam Phaser Replacement). The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure. The approximate failure mileage was 61,900.
Mileage: 61,900
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated while starting the vehicle, the vehicle made abnormal rattling sounds. The vehicle was taken to the dealer where it was diagnosed that the failure was related to Customer Satisfaction Program: 21N03 (Cam Phaser Replacement) however, the VIN was not included. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure and advised the contact to file a complaint with the NHTSA Hotline. The failure mileage was approximately 62,000.
Mileage: 62,000
Our SUV has had problems in trying pick up speed. It started a few years back when I was taking a right turn and as I pushed on the gas pedal the SUV would not take off. We took it into the dealership but they could not recreate this problem. Yet, the problem persisted for us so we took it again to a different dealership and again they could not recreate the problem. Now our check engine light is on and the problem is getting worse. I called the dealership last week to bring it in and they could not get me in until mid-Septmember. One major incident occured when we were merging on the highway with lots of traffic and the SUV would not pick up speed. Some warning lights came on our dashboard and we had to immediately pull over to the side because the SUV would not pick up speed and it starting puttering. We were almost hit from behind by another vehicle due to the SUV not picking up speed. This problem has progressively been getting worse and I am afraid to drive the vehicle anywhere. I could be driving as slow as 30mph and trying to speed up causes the SUV to shake and putter. Now, when this happens the A/C does not cool. It feels like the SUV will shut off while I am driving. Plus, now the Engine Start/Stop feature no longer works. We have 4 kids and I am scared to drive this SUV as I feel this may cause us to be in a car accident. This is a major safety issue that needs to be addressed.
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that while starting the vehicle, there was an abnormal rattling sound detected. There were no warning lights illuminated. The contact called the local dealer but the vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired. The manufacturer was notified of the failure but no additional assistance was provided. The approximate failure mileage was 65,000.
Mileage: 65,000
The contact owns a 2019 Ford Expedition. The contact stated that every time he started the vehicle, the engine would rattle and make a loud noise. The contact stated no warning light was illuminated. The contact had taken the vehicle to a local dealer, where it was diagnosed and determined there was manufacturer internal recall 21B10 that was to address a PCM Re-flash failure. The contact was advised by the dealer that his warranty did not cover the repair. The contact did not have the vehicle repaired. The manufacturer had been informed of the failure. The failure mileage was 70,236.
Mileage: 70,236
My family received a notice of Customer Satisfaction Program 21N08 – PCM Reprogram Due to Engine Shudder – 2017-2020 Ford F-150, 2018-2020 Expedition, & 2018-2020 Lincoln Navigator. We immediate began trying to locate an authorized repair facility. It took several months to get an appointment. During this time, our vehicle shuddered, stopped, and even turned off completely while driving. The problem continued to increase in intensity. When we were able to get the vehicle into a Ford dealership, they suggested that we contact Ford for the repairs that we needed. A private repair facility told us that now, because the shudder issue was not resolved right away, they discovered VCT phasers, VCT solenoids, timing chains and tensioners - failed setting code P0021 and causing engine to run rough. There was a loud rattle on startup which is related. P0018 stored in history. We have received a $4,000 repair estimate. I contacted Ford Customer service. They suggested I bring it into Ford Dealership. I explained that it had taken months to get in the first time. Customer service refused to provide me with additional authorized Ford repair (non dealers) in my location. Customer service refused to provide me with information on the error codes above. Customer service refused to provide me with more information concerning the PCMC reprogram and the known problems related to failing to obtain the reprograming. Customer service was not able to help me at all. I believe that the “PCM reprogram due to engine sudder” should be investigated as a potential formal recall program. Ford should repair of known issues a priority for their customers, and should also repair issues caused by failing to allow their customers to receive a timely remedy of this problem. I would also like more information on known issues with the PCM reprogram and engine shudder. I would like to view the quarterly reports.
The ecoboost 3.5 engine has a common issue with the cam phasers. My vehicle has had oil changes done, every 9,000 miles and now needs the cam phasers to be replaces. It has 83,000 miles. I believe this is a known defect that Ford is trying to remedy with customer satisfaction campaigns, rather than a recall. Had the 21b10 tsb performed and which is a requirement and the car shudders and the transmission shifts poorly. Also, the driver's side seat best will not retract fully.
•Vechicle is a lemon car by definition and needs to be replaced due to safety issues and the amount of calls in the short duration I have had it in my position •My family and I have been leveraging other family vechicle along side putting the car dormant as much as we can to avoid further mechanical issues which is not acceptable •The request to ask for 4 to 6 weeks on a car repair without loaner is unacceptable as the loan payments are still due by me to the lender and are unable to utilize the car in any capacity •The issue has been open for about 10 months since reporting with NO resolution - unacceptable •Dealership purposely delayed and provided incorrect information and allowed the warranty period to expire as it would provide revenue of service to the business (recalls are free) Please see the attachment for a detailed timeline and supporting documents
On March 22, 2021, check engine light. Took vehicle to Ford dealer. Technician said cam phaser needed to be change. At around 72000 miles. Google search to find out, that is a common problem in the 3.5 eco boost engines. Vehicle was purchased certified used from Elder Ford Tampa, FL with about 33000 miles March 2020. Mall of George Ford, diagnose the check engine light.
FORD IS AWARE OF A DESIGN DEFECT THAT CAUSES THE VCT SYSTEM TO WEAR OUT WITHIN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME IN BRAND NEW EXPEDITIONS. WHEN THE VCT SYSTEM WEARS OUT, THE VEHICLE IMMEDIATELY TRANSITIONS INTO "LIMP MODE" , WHICH CAUSES THE VEHICLE TO IMMEDIATELY (UNSAFELY) DECELERATE TO A SPEED OF 15MPH (OR LESS ON HILLS), CREATING DANGEROUS SITUATIONS, PARTICULARLY ON HIGHWAYS AND WHEN TOWING. WE PURCHASED OUR EXPEDITION IN MARCH 2019, BRAND NEW. WE PURCHASED THE VEHICLE WITH THE HEAVY DUTY TOW PACKAGE, WHICH PROVIDES TOWING UP TO 9,300LBS. WITHIN A FEW MONTHS, THE VEHICLE BEGAN MAKING A LOUD RATTLE AT START UP, LASTING A FEW SECONDS. WE DILIGENTLY SERVICED THE VEHICLE ONLY AT FORD DEALERSHIPS, WHO ROUTINELY SAID THE RATTLE WAS "FINE" OR "WITHIN SPEC." ON 9/1/2020, WHILE TOWING OUR AIRSTREAM TRAILER (~7,000 LBS) ON INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 86 THROUGH WINDSOR, NY, THE VEHICLE THREW ON THE "WRENCH LIGHT" AND RAPIDLY DECELERATED FROM 55MPH TO 10MPH. WE WERE AT THE BOTTOM OF A LONG INCLINE, IN MODERATELY HEAVY TRAFFIC (65MPH). THERE WAS AN INSUFFICIENT SHOULDER TO STOP WITH OUR TRAILER, SO WE VERY SLOWLY CREPT FOR MILES TO THE NEAREST EXIT. THE CLOSEST FORD DEALERSHIPS REFUSED TO LOOK AT IT. IT WAS EVENTUALLY TOWED TO ONEONTA FORD. DESPITE KNOWING OF TSB 20-2315 (AND ITS PREDECESSORS), FORD CLAIMED THAT THE VEHICLE WAS "FINE" AND LIKELY JUST SUFFERED A BAD OIL CHANGE. AFTER SPENDING 12 DAYS WITH OUR VEHICLE, THEY RETURNED IT, PERFORMING ONLY AN OIL CHANGE. THE RATTLE REMAINED AND FORD CLAIMED THERE WAS NOTHING THEY COULD DO. ON 10/9/2020, THE VERY NEXT TIME WE ATTEMPTED TO TOW, ON COUNTY HIGHWAY 2, THE VEHICLE AGAIN, ABRUPTLY WENT FROM 55 TO10MPH ON A LONG, SLOW INCLINE IN MODERATE TRAFFIC. WE TURNED AROUND (WITH THE TRAILER) ON A 2 LANE ROAD. THE VEHICLE WAS TOWED BACK TO FORD, WHO RELUCTANTLY (AFTER WEEKS) REPLACED THE VCT SYSTEM PER TSB 20-2315.
Mileage: 28,000
FOLLOWED SEMI INTO DEALER SERVICE PARKING LOT. SEMI TURNED LEFT SO MOVED FORWARD TO JOIN LINE OF CARS INTO SERVICE BAY. WHILE COMING TO STOP, SEMI ON LEFT BACKED UP AND COMING RIGHT FOR ME. AT MY STOPPING, AUTO ENGINE SHUT OFF TURNED OFF ENGINE AS WAS TRYING TO SHIFT TO REVERSE. BY TIME ENGINE TURNED BACK ON, ACKNOWLEDGED REVERSE, ENGAGED REVERSE, RESPONDED TO ACCELERATOR BEING PUSHED, GEAR ENGAGED, THE TRUCK WAS ABOUT TO HIT ME AS DRIVER DID NOT SEE ME. LUCKILY DRIVER NOTICED AND SLAMMED ON BRAKES. BY THIS TIME, VEHICLE WAS STILL TRYING TO MOVE SO IF TRUCK DID NOT STOP, I WOULD HAVE BEEN HIT. AUTO STOP OF ENGINE IS A DANGEROUS FEATURE. WHILE MAY WORK AT A TRAFFIC LIGHT, IN A SITUATION REQUIRING QUICK RESPONSE, TOO MANY STEPS TO TURN VEHICLE ON AND ENGAGE A CHANGE OF DIRECTION. FORD HAS A FEATURE TO TURN OFF MANUALLY, BUT SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO TURN OFF ALL THE TIME. IF VEHICLE SHUTS DOWN IN EMERGENCY SITUATION AS THIS, A PERSON COULD BE KILLED. THIS EVENT WAS VIEWED BY SEVERAL PEOPLE AND ALL I COULD SAY WAS COULD NOT MOVE AS VEHICLE DID NOT RESPOND QUICKLY ENOUGH. EMISSIONS ARE NOT MORE IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE'S LIVES AND THIS FEATURE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED OR ALLOWED TO BE OVERRIDDEN.
Mileage: 12,700