This Problem Across All Years
About 3 weeks ago I had just left my house, battery fully charged and gas tank full. I was coming down a hill to a stop sign and started braking. Suddenly the car seemed to lose power and essentially stopped moving. There was an error on the dash saying "hybrid system failure". There was barely able enough power to slowly pull the car over to the side of the road. I turned off the car and checked the battery in the trunk - I didn't see any obvious concerns. My husband got there 10 minutes later and we tried turning the car on again. It came on fine but there was an engine warning light. We were able to drive it without difficulty back to my house. I was unable to get a timely appointment at my local Hyundai dealer, so a couple days later My husband drove it to a local garage to see if they could figure out what the problem was. When he turned the car on again the engine light was no longer on. However, at the garage they were able to pull up a history of the car alerts and it confirmed that it said hybrid system failure. I have done some research online and it sounds like there was a recall on Hyundai sonatas hybrids for 2017 but I did not see a recall for the plug-in version of the hybrid. I searched online, however, and there were many other owners of Hyundai sonata plug-in hybrids that reported the same incident. I am hoping that a recall gets is issued for the plug-in hybrid as well so that more owners don't have the same problem. If I had been driving on the highway at 65 mph in a middle lane and my engine suddenly lost power it could have been fatal. Oh - one other recent problem I had that I'm not sure is related is that my car recently started losing electric miles very quickly. From the time it was purchased until a few months ago, it was losing plug-in miles at about 1 mi per year (i.e. each year a fully charged battery gave me 1 mile less). Then about 6 months ago it started losing electric miles very quickly - about 1/mo. Dealer said it was normal aging.
About 3 weeks ago I had just left my house, battery fully charged and gas tank full. I was coming down a hill to a stop sign and started braking. Suddenly the car seemed to lose power and essentially stopped moving. There was an error on the dash saying "hybrid system failure". There was barely able enough power to slowly pull the car over to the side of the road. I turned off the car and checked the battery in the trunk - I didn't see any obvious concerns. My husband got there 10 minutes later and we tried turning the car on again. It came on fine but there was an engine warning light. We were able to drive it without difficulty back to my house. I was unable to get a timely appointment at my local Hyundai dealer, so a couple days later My husband drove it to a local garage to see if they could figure out what the problem was. When he turned the car on again the engine light was no longer on. However, at the garage they were able to pull up a history of the car alerts and it confirmed that it said hybrid system failure. I have done some research online and it sounds like there was a recall on Hyundai sonatas hybrids for 2017 but I did not see a recall for the plug-in version of the hybrid. I searched online, however, and there were many other owners of Hyundai sonata plug-in hybrids that reported the same incident. I am hoping that a recall gets is issued for the plug-in hybrid as well so that more owners don't have the same problem. If I had been driving on the highway at 65 mph in a middle lane and my engine suddenly lost power it could have been fatal. Oh - one other recent problem I had that I'm not sure is related is that my car recently started losing electric miles very quickly. From the time it was purchased until a few months ago, it was losing plug-in miles at about 1 mi per year (i.e. each year a fully charged battery gave me 1 mile less). Then about 6 months ago it started losing electric miles very quickly - about 1/mo. Dealer said it was normal aging.
Occurrence: This has been a recurring issue for over a year (over a year, might be closer to two years now) for our PHEV Sonata. It has happened approximately 10 times. Problem: Total engine shutdown when driving the car. "Shut down engine" type error message pops up and cannot accelerate. Steering still works, but it can be hard to pull over due to lack of engine power. The car can be restarted after shutting down, but must first come to a complete stop and into Park. Safety Issue: The car stops working. Obviously, this would be quite dangerous on a busy road, a highway, or if you were taking a left turn, etc. Confirmation: The dealer indicates that the hybrid battery is a problem and should be replaced. However, due to supply chain issues, we have been waiting for over a year for the replacement. **** Reproduction Steps: **** We have found that it is most likely to happen with a fully charged battery and a sudden braking action. I suspect the issue happens when trying to charge the battery but due to its condition, it shuts down instead. It tends to happen: 1) Full Charge: Battery is fully charged overnight or "topped up" to full charge 2) Sudden Braking: Having to brake hard, such as being cut off. We have found that adjusting charging and driving habits has reduced but not eliminated the issue. Suggestion: I would suspect that having some electrical component to prevent a sudden overcharge might eliminate this problem (shunting excess current or turning off regenerative braking for sudden stops). Warning Messages: A warning message is seen, but it happens at the same time the engine is shut down and disappears before you could take a picture of it (as you are busy trying to do an emergency pull over).
Occurrence: This has been a recurring issue for over a year (over a year, might be closer to two years now) for our PHEV Sonata. It has happened approximately 10 times. Problem: Total engine shutdown when driving the car. "Shut down engine" type error message pops up and cannot accelerate. Steering still works, but it can be hard to pull over due to lack of engine power. The car can be restarted after shutting down, but must first come to a complete stop and into Park. Safety Issue: The car stops working. Obviously, this would be quite dangerous on a busy road, a highway, or if you were taking a left turn, etc. Confirmation: The dealer indicates that the hybrid battery is a problem and should be replaced. However, due to supply chain issues, we have been waiting for over a year for the replacement. **** Reproduction Steps: **** We have found that it is most likely to happen with a fully charged battery and a sudden braking action. I suspect the issue happens when trying to charge the battery but due to its condition, it shuts down instead. It tends to happen: 1) Full Charge: Battery is fully charged overnight or "topped up" to full charge 2) Sudden Braking: Having to brake hard, such as being cut off. We have found that adjusting charging and driving habits has reduced but not eliminated the issue. Suggestion: I would suspect that having some electrical component to prevent a sudden overcharge might eliminate this problem (shunting excess current or turning off regenerative braking for sudden stops). Warning Messages: A warning message is seen, but it happens at the same time the engine is shut down and disappears before you could take a picture of it (as you are busy trying to do an emergency pull over).
The trunk will not open by any means, at times it can be opened, but the emergency release does not work. If anyone gets in, they cannot get out, especially with the Hybrids which do not have fold down back seats. Federal mandate states the trunk must have an operational emergency release, but with the trunk latch issue, the emergency release does NOT work.
The trunk will not open by any means, at times it can be opened, but the emergency release does not work. If anyone gets in, they cannot get out, especially with the Hybrids which do not have fold down back seats. Federal mandate states the trunk must have an operational emergency release, but with the trunk latch issue, the emergency release does NOT work.
THE TRUNK LATCH NOT LOCKING. OPENED TRUNK IN DRIVEWAY, TRIED TO CLOSE TRUNK AND IT WOULDN'T LOCK/CLOSE.
THE TRUNK LATCH NOT LOCKING. OPENED TRUNK IN DRIVEWAY, TRIED TO CLOSE TRUNK AND IT WOULDN'T LOCK/CLOSE.
THE SHARK FIN ANTENNA COVER CAME OFF THE VEHICLE. WHEN I PARKED THE CAR, AFTER DRIVING ON THE HIGHWAY, I NOTICED THAT IT WAS GONE. THIS DEFINITELY CAN POSE A DRIVING HAZARD IF IT COMES OFF THE VEHICLE WHILE DRIVING ON THE HIGHWAY. I NOTICED THAT WHAT WAS LEFT OF THE BASE MOUNTS APPEARED TO BE CRACKED WHICH RESULTED IN THE FIN BREAKING FREE. THIS DEFINITELY APPEARS TO BE A MANUFACTURING DEFECT. IT'S APPROXIMATELY A $500 COST AT THE DEALER TO REPAIR. THIS SHOULDN'T HAPPEN AFTER TWO YEARS OF CAR OWNERSHIP. IT WILL GET VERY COSTLY TO REPLACE THIS AT THE DEALER EVERY TWO YEARS. BASED ON OTHERS' EXPERIENCES, THIS APPEARS TO BE A COMMON OCCURRENCE WITH THIS VEHICLE.
THE SHARK FIN ANTENNA COVER CAME OFF THE VEHICLE. WHEN I PARKED THE CAR, AFTER DRIVING ON THE HIGHWAY, I NOTICED THAT IT WAS GONE. THIS DEFINITELY CAN POSE A DRIVING HAZARD IF IT COMES OFF THE VEHICLE WHILE DRIVING ON THE HIGHWAY. I NOTICED THAT WHAT WAS LEFT OF THE BASE MOUNTS APPEARED TO BE CRACKED WHICH RESULTED IN THE FIN BREAKING FREE. THIS DEFINITELY APPEARS TO BE A MANUFACTURING DEFECT. IT'S APPROXIMATELY A $500 COST AT THE DEALER TO REPAIR. THIS SHOULDN'T HAPPEN AFTER TWO YEARS OF CAR OWNERSHIP. IT WILL GET VERY COSTLY TO REPLACE THIS AT THE DEALER EVERY TWO YEARS. BASED ON OTHERS' EXPERIENCES, THIS APPEARS TO BE A COMMON OCCURRENCE WITH THIS VEHICLE.
2017 HYUNDAI SONATA PLUG IN FEATURE FORWARD COLLISION WARNING ON FRONT STICKER SHOULD HAVE ALSO SAID IT ONLY WORKS ABOVE 25MPH AND IT DOES NOT ACTIVATE WARNING SOON ENOUGH SO I THINK ITS CRASH ZONE AND SHOUDL BE ADJUSTABLE AND TESTABLE IT IS NOT NTSB I HOPE CAN HELP MANUFACTURE A STANDARD TERMINOLOGY WHEN IT COME TO SALES AND RELEASE OF HYUNDAI LIABLE IN CASE FAILURE , YES I KNOW THEY WILL NOT COVER FAILURE UNDER MANY CONDITIONS, BUT THE SYSTEM I BROUGHT TO HYUNDAI 2X ONE IN JULY 2017 AND ONE IN MAR 2018 I WAS TOLD FRONTSIDE COLLISION WORK , THERE ARE NO ADJUSTMET FOR DISTANCE VS SPEED TECH JUST TAKE ME FOR RIDE ALMOST COLLIDE WITH THE CAR BEFORE THE COLLISION WARNING CAME ON IT SHOULD HAVE COME ON WITHIN 1-2 SECOND RULE, AND HYUNDAI HAS CHANGE THE SYSTEM FOR YEAR 2018 ,, I'M WORK WITH HYUNDAI TO GET PROPER LABEL , AND RETURN CAR FOR NTSB THE STICKER SHOULD BE MADE TO STATE TYPE OF SYSTEM AND HYUNDAI SHOULD ASK CONSUMER TO SIGN LIABLE RELAEASE THAT SYSTEM WONT ALWAYS WORK, HYUNDAI IS WORK WITH ME, SO THANKS, BUT NTSB SHOUD TEST FRONTSIDE COLLISION SYSTEMS RATE THEM TECHS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DRIVE THE CAR INTO A CRASH ZONE TO TEST IT, AND I SHOULD BE TOLD SYSTEM NOT WORK<25MPH EVASIVE SALE BUT HYUNDAI WORK WITH ME FYI EXAMPLE OF GOOD SYSTEM IS MOBILEYE 630 FOR FRONTSIDE
2017 HYUNDAI SONATA PLUG IN FEATURE FORWARD COLLISION WARNING ON FRONT STICKER SHOULD HAVE ALSO SAID IT ONLY WORKS ABOVE 25MPH AND IT DOES NOT ACTIVATE WARNING SOON ENOUGH SO I THINK ITS CRASH ZONE AND SHOUDL BE ADJUSTABLE AND TESTABLE IT IS NOT NTSB I HOPE CAN HELP MANUFACTURE A STANDARD TERMINOLOGY WHEN IT COME TO SALES AND RELEASE OF HYUNDAI LIABLE IN CASE FAILURE , YES I KNOW THEY WILL NOT COVER FAILURE UNDER MANY CONDITIONS, BUT THE SYSTEM I BROUGHT TO HYUNDAI 2X ONE IN JULY 2017 AND ONE IN MAR 2018 I WAS TOLD FRONTSIDE COLLISION WORK , THERE ARE NO ADJUSTMET FOR DISTANCE VS SPEED TECH JUST TAKE ME FOR RIDE ALMOST COLLIDE WITH THE CAR BEFORE THE COLLISION WARNING CAME ON IT SHOULD HAVE COME ON WITHIN 1-2 SECOND RULE, AND HYUNDAI HAS CHANGE THE SYSTEM FOR YEAR 2018 ,, I'M WORK WITH HYUNDAI TO GET PROPER LABEL , AND RETURN CAR FOR NTSB THE STICKER SHOULD BE MADE TO STATE TYPE OF SYSTEM AND HYUNDAI SHOULD ASK CONSUMER TO SIGN LIABLE RELAEASE THAT SYSTEM WONT ALWAYS WORK, HYUNDAI IS WORK WITH ME, SO THANKS, BUT NTSB SHOUD TEST FRONTSIDE COLLISION SYSTEMS RATE THEM TECHS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DRIVE THE CAR INTO A CRASH ZONE TO TEST IT, AND I SHOULD BE TOLD SYSTEM NOT WORK<25MPH EVASIVE SALE BUT HYUNDAI WORK WITH ME FYI EXAMPLE OF GOOD SYSTEM IS MOBILEYE 630 FOR FRONTSIDE