2018 NISSAN VERSA Problems & Recalls

I was driving on the express way in rush hour traffic, and my car started to judder and rpm were reving high.i tried to accelerate and the car just stop in mid traffic, I had to have the car towed home,and from home to the nissan dealership. They told me that my transmission had failed and needed to...

loss of power when using turn signal on highway changing lanes and making left or right turn on city streets. Once the signal is off I can accelerate. Left turn signal becomes more rapid as well. The Versa has a manual transmission. recurring issue for a month.

loss of power when using turn signal on highway changing lanes and making left or right turn on city streets. Once the signal is off I can accelerate. Left turn signal becomes more rapid as well. The Versa has a manual transmission. recurring issue for a month.

Has an issue with the mass flow air sensor. I had this car for 7 months with 84,000 miles on it and noticed instantly that it had poor mileage and stalled a lot. Check engine came on the first time and I took it to have a diagnostic test and a P101 code came on, a couple of days later the car wouldn...

Has an issue with the mass flow air sensor. I had this car for 7 months with 84,000 miles on it and noticed instantly that it had poor mileage and stalled a lot. Check engine came on the first time and I took it to have a diagnostic test and a P101 code came on, a couple of days later the car wouldn...

I pulled up to a stoplight that was on a hill and tried to put on the brake. The brake pedal was highly resistant and wouldn’t let me push down fully. At that moment, all of the warning lights on the dashboard turned on. When the light turned green, I tried to hit the gas pedal but the car wouldn�...

I pulled up to a stoplight that was on a hill and tried to put on the brake. The brake pedal was highly resistant and wouldn’t let me push down fully. At that moment, all of the warning lights on the dashboard turned on. When the light turned green, I tried to hit the gas pedal but the car wouldn�...

I pulled up to a stoplight that was on a hill and tried to put on the brake. The brake pedal was highly resistant and wouldn’t let me push down fully. At that moment, all of the warning lights on the dashboard turned on. When the light turned green, I tried to hit the gas pedal but the car wouldn�...

While driving the car just shuts off and I have to stop the car turn the ignition off and then back on, this has happened multiple times and the dealer said there are no recalls on rhus vehicle.

Brake's grind and squeal at a slow stop even with new brakes and rotors and electric problems like it's blowing headlights with in weeks of installing and tag lights as well.

Brake's grind and squeal at a slow stop even with new brakes and rotors and electric problems like it's blowing headlights with in weeks of installing and tag lights as well.

Purchased New in January, 2019, with 10-20 miles on it. In February/March of 2020 it started lurching forward, giving rough idles. It would rumble, and you could hear the engine move around. This reported to Nissan dealership, the Tech. could not find code, simply reset computer. In 2021, I took...

Purchased New in January, 2019, with 10-20 miles on it. In February/March of 2020 it started lurching forward, giving rough idles. It would rumble, and you could hear the engine move around. This reported to Nissan dealership, the Tech. could not find code, simply reset computer. In 2021, I took...

Purchased New in January, 2019, with 10-20 miles on it. In February/March of 2020 it started lurching forward, giving rough idles. It would rumble, and you could hear the engine move around. This reported to Nissan dealership, the Tech. could not find code, simply reset computer. In 2021, I took...

TRANSMISSION ISSUES , STALLING, RPM REVVING.

TRANSMISSION ISSUES , STALLING, RPM REVVING.

TRANSMISSION ISSUES , STALLING, RPM REVVING.

Car stalls, I’ve contacted Nissan regarding electrical issues with ignition how it’s not reading the ecu. Another things is the recalls that comes up. Here it is Recall #19V654000 BACK OVER PREVENTION: SENSING SYSTEM: CAMERA Defect Description: Nissan North America, Inc. (Nissan) is recalling ce...

Car stalls, I’ve contacted Nissan regarding electrical issues with ignition how it’s not reading the ecu. Another things is the recalls that comes up. Here it is Recall #19V654000 BACK OVER PREVENTION: SENSING SYSTEM: CAMERA Defect Description: Nissan North America, Inc. (Nissan) is recalling ce...

Car stalls, I’ve contacted Nissan regarding electrical issues with ignition how it’s not reading the ecu. Another things is the recalls that comes up. Here it is Recall #19V654000 BACK OVER PREVENTION: SENSING SYSTEM: CAMERA Defect Description: Nissan North America, Inc. (Nissan) is recalling ce...

The contact owns a 2018 Nissan Versa. The contact stated while driving 32 MPH, the vehicle shut off without warning. The contact was able to pull over on the side of the road and restarted the vehicle. The vehicle was taken to the dealer and stated that the vehicle was not under recall and that the ...

Mileage: 34,707

The contact owns a 2018 Nissan Versa. The contact stated while driving 32 MPH, the vehicle shut off without warning. The contact was able to pull over on the side of the road and restarted the vehicle. The vehicle was taken to the dealer and stated that the vehicle was not under recall and that the ...

Mileage: 34,707

The contact owns a 2018 Nissan Versa. The contact stated that on various occasions, after driving from a stop signal, the vehicle shuddered. No warning lights were illuminated. The contact stated that the vehicle was taken to an independent mechanic; however, the vehicle was not diagnosed or repaire...

Mileage: 15,000

The contact owns a 2018 Nissan Versa. The contact stated that on various occasions, after driving from a stop signal, the vehicle shuddered. No warning lights were illuminated. The contact stated that the vehicle was taken to an independent mechanic; however, the vehicle was not diagnosed or repaire...

Mileage: 15,000

The check engine lamp light came on and vehicles current shift lamps not visible. Vehicle began to slip gears and Rev at high rpm. Risk of taking kids to school and myself to work was resolved by parking the car back in driveway. The car diagnostic machine put out code P0705 Transmission Range Senso...

The check engine lamp light came on and vehicles current shift lamps not visible. Vehicle began to slip gears and Rev at high rpm. Risk of taking kids to school and myself to work was resolved by parking the car back in driveway. The car diagnostic machine put out code P0705 Transmission Range Senso...

The check engine lamp light came on and vehicles current shift lamps not visible. Vehicle began to slip gears and Rev at high rpm. Risk of taking kids to school and myself to work was resolved by parking the car back in driveway. The car diagnostic machine put out code P0705 Transmission Range Senso...

While driving the car airbag icon appeared on dashboard blinking

My Versa appears to have the same transmission issues as other Nissan vehicles where it has a harsh downshift slow speed shutter and bump when when coming to a complete stop vehicle has loud wine coming from transmission and has a slipping feeling under hard acceleration Nissan refuses to do anythin...

The contact owns a 2018 Nissan Versa. The contact stated that she had collided with a deer that entered the roadway at 60 MPH. The airbags failed to deploy upon impact. The contact sustained sourness to her neck, back, and both shoulders but did not seek medical attention. The police were not called...

1) When at red light with car in drive and brake pedal pressed the car occasionally begins to roll forward and then the brakes suddenly depress even more. 2) All brake lights intermittently go out and if hit will come back on for an unknown time until u realize they're not working again. 3) I ha...

1) When at red light with car in drive and brake pedal pressed the car occasionally begins to roll forward and then the brakes suddenly depress even more. 2) All brake lights intermittently go out and if hit will come back on for an unknown time until u realize they're not working again. 3) I ha...

1) When at red light with car in drive and brake pedal pressed the car occasionally begins to roll forward and then the brakes suddenly depress even more. 2) All brake lights intermittently go out and if hit will come back on for an unknown time until u realize they're not working again. 3) I ha...

I bought this new vehicle and I am the first owner. Two months ago, the airbag light is on and the system said the front passenger seat airbag is disabled even though my wife is siting on the front passenger seat. It seems that the airbag system cannot detect someone is siting on the passenger seat....

Unknown! Repeatedly spent thousands of dollars on repairs but car never fixes. Check engine light on every month and car stalls often.

Unknown! Repeatedly spent thousands of dollars on repairs but car never fixes. Check engine light on every month and car stalls often.

Unknown! Repeatedly spent thousands of dollars on repairs but car never fixes. Check engine light on every month and car stalls often.

I have a 5 speed manual transmission that has a defective throwout bearing clutch assembly that 'sticks' and does not engage or release in a smooth manner. Each shift is 'jerky' when the clutch pedal is released and the power transfer from gear to gear is is a sudden jerk instead of a smooth continu...

Turned on my car that day and air bag lights stay blinking all the time for driver and front passenger.

Brake pedal is to small my right foot keeps sliping off the pedal i fell like it might cause a rear end accident

On May 29th, there was a really heavy down pour of rain. The next day when I got into my car, it was flooded. It rained for the next 3-4 days. I could hear water sloshing around inside the car frame. Water gushed into the passenger floor board from behind the dashboard. By the time I could vacuu...

The contact owns a 2018 Nissan Versa. The contact stated while the vehicle was is for an inspection, the vehicle was returned with a malfunctioning check engine warning light on the instrument panel. The vehicle was diagnosed but was not repaired. The manufacturer was informed of the failure, and th...

Mileage: 74,723

I WAS HIT FROM THE SIDE. THE COLLISION WAS PRETTY BAD, MY CAR WAS TOTALED. IT WAS THE THE FRONT OF THE PASSENGERS SEAT. AT THE SPEED THE CRASH HAPPENED, THE FORCE WITH WHICH I WAS HIT AND THE DAMAGE TO THE CAR I WAS UNPLEASANTLY SURPRISED THAT THE AIRBAGS DID NOT DEPLOY, THEY COULD HAVE PREVENTED IN...

I WAS HIT FROM THE SIDE. THE COLLISION WAS PRETTY BAD, MY CAR WAS TOTALED. IT WAS THE THE FRONT OF THE PASSENGERS SEAT. AT THE SPEED THE CRASH HAPPENED, THE FORCE WITH WHICH I WAS HIT AND THE DAMAGE TO THE CAR I WAS UNPLEASANTLY SURPRISED THAT THE AIRBAGS DID NOT DEPLOY, THEY COULD HAVE PREVENTED IN...

I WAS HIT FROM THE SIDE. THE COLLISION WAS PRETTY BAD, MY CAR WAS TOTALED. IT WAS THE THE FRONT OF THE PASSENGERS SEAT. AT THE SPEED THE CRASH HAPPENED, THE FORCE WITH WHICH I WAS HIT AND THE DAMAGE TO THE CAR I WAS UNPLEASANTLY SURPRISED THAT THE AIRBAGS DID NOT DEPLOY, THEY COULD HAVE PREVENTED IN...

AIRBAG LIGHT LIGHT CAME ON. TOKE IT TO GET CHECKED THE FIRST TIME WAS TOLD OLD CODES CAME UP BUT EVERYTHING LOOK GOOD THAT IF THE LIGHT CAME BACK ON I WOULD HAVE TO TAKE TO A NISSAN DEALERSHIP. ONE HOUR LATER LIGHT CAME ON AGAIN. TOOK TO A NISSAN DEALERSHIP AND WAS TOLD IT SHOWED OLD CODES AND WIRES...

Mileage: 80,000

THE VEHICLE WILL STOP AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT. THE VEHICLE STOPPED WHILE ALMOST ENTERING THE HIGHWAY. THEN WHEN TURNED OFF AND TRIED TURNING BACK ON THE ENGINE WOULDN'T TURN OVER. THE PROBLEM AUTO REPAIR SHOP IS SAYING THAT THERE IS NO COMMUNICATION WITH THE ENGINE.

Mileage: 51,000

THERE ARE SERIOUS DESIGN FLAWS ON THE 2018 NISSAN VERSA THAT ALLOW WATER (I.E RAIN) TO COLLECT BELOW THE WINDSHIELD AND WHEN THE COLLECTED WATER DOESN'T DRAIN IT FLOODS THE CAR ON THE FRONT PASSENGER SIDE. THERE IS A WATER GUTTER UNDER THE WINDSHIELD WIPERS THAT RUNS FROM EACH SIDE OF THE CAR. IT ...

Mileage: 36,607

I WAS STOPPED AT A STOP SIGN (ABOUT TO GET ON THE HIGHWAY) AND MY CAR JUST SHUT OFF. NO SIGNS THAT IT WAS GOING TO DO THIS, NO SPUDDERING OR ACTING LIKE IT WAS GOING TO DIE. JUST SHUT OF. I HAVE READ ON FORUMS THAT OTHER NISSAN VERSA OWNERS HAVE HAD THE SAME ISSUE. SOME WHILE DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD. ...

Mileage: 42,000

I WAS STOPPED AT A STOP SIGN (ABOUT TO GET ON THE HIGHWAY) AND MY CAR JUST SHUT OFF. NO SIGNS THAT IT WAS GOING TO DO THIS, NO SPUDDERING OR ACTING LIKE IT WAS GOING TO DIE. JUST SHUT OF. I HAVE READ ON FORUMS THAT OTHER NISSAN VERSA OWNERS HAVE HAD THE SAME ISSUE. SOME WHILE DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD. ...

Mileage: 42,000

WE WERE RECENTLY IN A CAR ACCIDENT IN OUR 2018 NISSAN VERSA. WE WERE GOING 55-60 MPH WHEN WE SWERVED TO AVOID AN ANIMAL. WE BROKE, BUT OUR SPEED DID NOT DECREASE MUCH, AS WE WENT INTO A DITCH AND CRASHED INTO THE SIDE OF THIS DITCH, CAUSING SEVERE MECHANICAL AND BODY DAMAGE. THE PASSENGERS SUFFERED ...

Mileage: 28,000

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2018 NISSAN VERSA. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE KEY FAILED TO RELEASE FROM THE IGNITION SWITCH. THERE WERE NO WARNING INDICATORS ILLUMINATED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO ANTELOPE VALLEY NISSAN (451 AUTO CENTER DR, PALMDALE, CA 93551) WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE IGNITION NEEDED...

Mileage: 45,000

SHAKING BRAKE PEDAL, DIFFICULTY SLOWING THE CAR DOWN WHILE DRIVING

Mileage: 100,000

SHAKING BRAKE PEDAL, DIFFICULTY SLOWING THE CAR DOWN WHILE DRIVING

Mileage: 100,000

SHAKING BRAKE PEDAL, DIFFICULTY SLOWING THE CAR DOWN WHILE DRIVING

Mileage: 100,000

THE VEHICLE HAS DIFFICULTY SLOWING DOWN WHILE DRIVING. AND BRAKES SEEM NOT TO STOP THE CAR (WEAKENED BRAKE PADS) IT FELT LIKE I WAS LOSING CONTROL OF THE CAR. ALSO THE CAR WOULD LOOSE POWER WHEN STATIONARY AT STOP LIGHTS. THIS COULD BE VERY DANGEROUS IF THIS OCCURRED ON A HIGHWAY OR WHILE IN MOTION...

Mileage: 80,000

THE VEHICLE HAS DIFFICULTY SLOWING DOWN WHILE DRIVING. AND BRAKES SEEM NOT TO STOP THE CAR (WEAKENED BRAKE PADS) IT FELT LIKE I WAS LOSING CONTROL OF THE CAR. ALSO THE CAR WOULD LOOSE POWER WHEN STATIONARY AT STOP LIGHTS. THIS COULD BE VERY DANGEROUS IF THIS OCCURRED ON A HIGHWAY OR WHILE IN MOTION...

Mileage: 80,000

THE VEHICLE HAS DIFFICULTY SLOWING DOWN WHILE DRIVING. AND BRAKES SEEM NOT TO STOP THE CAR (WEAKENED BRAKE PADS) IT FELT LIKE I WAS LOSING CONTROL OF THE CAR. ALSO THE CAR WOULD LOOSE POWER WHEN STATIONARY AT STOP LIGHTS. THIS COULD BE VERY DANGEROUS IF THIS OCCURRED ON A HIGHWAY OR WHILE IN MOTION...

Mileage: 80,000

VEHICLE STALLS WHICH CAN CAUSE AN ACCIDENT, MY GRANDMOTHER [XXX] DIED FROM STALLED VEHICLE WHO WAS DRIVING.*DT*JB *DT*DT*JB *JS PARTS OF THIS DOCUMENT HAVE BEEN REDACTED TO PROTECT PERSONALLY IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6).

Mileage: 100,000

MULTIPLE TIMES CAR HAS SHUT OFF/STALLED WHILE DRIVING. DRIVING HOME, TRYING TO CROSS A BUSY HIGHWAY, MERGED INTO TURNING LANE, STOPPED TO TURN AND CAR HAS SHUT OFF.

Mileage: 29,304

TL* THE CONTACT OWNED A 2018 NISSAN VERSA. WHILE DRIVING 10 MPH THROUGH AN INTERSECTION, THE CONTACT'S VEHICLE WAS T-BONED BY ANOTHER VEHICLE TRAVELING 55 MPH. THE AIR BAGS DID NOT DEPLOY. THE CONTACT WAS IN AND OUT OF CONSCIOUSNESS AFTER THE CRASH AND WAS TRANSPORTED TO A LOCAL HOSPITAL. THE CONTAC...

Mileage: 19,000

I AM AT 27000 MILES, AND I'VE STARTED TO EXPERIENCE INTERMITTENT JERKING OF THE CAR BETWEEN 1000-2000 RPM. IT'S ALMOST AS THOUGH THE TRANSMISSION SKIPS A BEAT, IN SOME CASES SLIGHTLY PROPELLING THE VEHICLE FORWARD. IF YOUR FOOT IS STARTING TO GO DOWN ON THE BRAKE, THERE IS A MOMENT THE CAR SUDDENLY ...

Mileage: 27,000

I WAS SITTING STATIONARY AT A STOP LIGHT IN TRAFFIC ON A CITY STREET AND MY BRAKE LIGHT, BATTERY LIGHT, AND OIL LIGHT CAME ON AND I IMMEDIATELY LOST POWER STEERING. I HAD TO GUIDE MY VEHICLE OFF THE ROAD AND HAD IT TOWED TO NISSAN SOUTH MORROW FOR SERVICE. I HAD ALSO HAD SOME MINOR IGNITION ISSUES R...

Mileage: 11,400

I WAS SITTING STATIONARY AT A STOP LIGHT IN TRAFFIC ON A CITY STREET AND MY BRAKE LIGHT, BATTERY LIGHT, AND OIL LIGHT CAME ON AND I IMMEDIATELY LOST POWER STEERING. I HAD TO GUIDE MY VEHICLE OFF THE ROAD AND HAD IT TOWED TO NISSAN SOUTH MORROW FOR SERVICE. I HAD ALSO HAD SOME MINOR IGNITION ISSUES R...

Mileage: 11,400

VEHICLE WAS PARKED WHEN STEERING WHEEL LOCKED UP AND IGNITION SWITCH WOULDN'T MOVE.

Mileage: 12,000

VEHICLE WAS PARKED WHEN STEERING WHEEL LOCKED UP AND IGNITION SWITCH WOULDN'T MOVE.

Mileage: 12,000

I HAD ONLY HAD MY CAR FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS, WAS DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD GOING ABOUT 40 MPH, AND IT COMPLETELY STALLED OUT ON ME. I WAS ABLE TO GUIDE IT TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD. TO MY ASTONISHMENT, IT TURNED OUT TO BE MY TRANSMISSION. THE NISSAN DEALERSHIP TOLD ME THEY HAD TO PUT IN A WHOLE NEW TRANSM...

Mileage: 179

AIRBAGS RECALL. I WAS IN A SIDE FRONT ACCIDENT AND NO AIR BAGS CAME OUT.

Mileage: 12,000

AIRBAGS RECALL. I WAS IN A SIDE FRONT ACCIDENT AND NO AIR BAGS CAME OUT.

Mileage: 12,000

IN A MINOR FENDER-BENDER, AT AROUND 5MP FROM A DEAD STOP, THE FRONT DRIVER BUMPER HIT A CAR IN FRONT, CAUSING A SCRATCH TO THE OTHER NEWER-MODEL CAR. BESIDES THE HEADLIGHT, BUMPER, HOOD AND FENDER DAMAGE, THE FRAME HOLDING THE ENGINE WAS BENT, CAUSING SO MUCH DAMAGE THAT THE REPAIR COSTS EQUALED TH...

TL* THE CONTACT OWNED A 2018 NISSAN VERSA. WHILE DRIVING 55 MPH, THE CONTACT STRUCK A DEER ON THE FRONT PASSENGER SIDE OF THE VEHICLE. THE DRIVER'S AIR BAG DID NOT DEPLOY UPON IMPACT. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE AIR BAG DEPLOYED AFTER THE CRASH WHEN THE VEHICLE WAS PULLED OVER ON THE SIDE OF THE ROA...

Mileage: 480

MY 2018 NISSAN VERSA SV DOES NOT HAVE A BACKUP CAMERA. IS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE UPGRADED BY THE DEALER OR MANUFACTURER? ALSO IT HAS A MECHANICAL KEY SYSTEM WHICH I READ WAS GOING TO BE RECALLED ON OCT 19, 2018 DUE TO POSSIBLE FAILURE OF THE MECHANICAL KEY SYSTEM, IS IT TRUE THERE IS A RECALL BEING ISS...

Mileage: 7,500

WE HAD LEASED THIS VEHICLE FROM HERTZ EARLIER IN THE DAY. THAT EVENING, I WAS DRIVING DOWN A HILL AND THE VEHICLE'S STEERING SYSTEM HAD SUDDENLY LOCKED UP. I WAS NOT ABLE TO STEER AND DROVE INTO A TREE AT A HIGH RATE OF SPEED. MY PASSENGER AND I BOTH SUFFERED SIGNIFICANT BODILY INJURIES AND WERE ...

Mileage: 3,298

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2018 NISSAN VERSA. WHILE DRIVING VARIOUS SPEEDS, THE VEHICLE JERKED TO THE RIGHT. THERE WERE NO WARNING INDICATORS DISPLAYED ON THE INSTRUMENT PANEL. THE CONTACT PULLED THE VEHICLE OVER TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD TO INSPECT THE TIRES FOR KNOTS. NISSAN SOUTH OF UNION CITY (4080 JO...

Mileage: 103,000

I WAS PERFORMING A MONTHLY INSPECTION UNDERNEATH MY 2018 NISSAN VERSA IN AUGUST 2018 TO INSURE THERE WAS NOT ANY VISIBLE LEAKS. UPON MY INSPECTION I OBSERVED WHAT APPEARED TO BE A SMALL AMOUNT OF OIL LOCATED ON THE AREA WHERE THE ENGINE MEETS THE TRANSMISSION. I BROUGHT THE CAR TO THE DEALERSHIP WHE...

Mileage: 7,200

I WAS PERFORMING A MONTHLY INSPECTION UNDERNEATH MY 2018 NISSAN VERSA IN AUGUST 2018 TO INSURE THERE WAS NOT ANY VISIBLE LEAKS. UPON MY INSPECTION I OBSERVED WHAT APPEARED TO BE A SMALL AMOUNT OF OIL LOCATED ON THE AREA WHERE THE ENGINE MEETS THE TRANSMISSION. I BROUGHT THE CAR TO THE DEALERSHIP WHE...

Mileage: 7,200

MY CAR WILL TURN OFF COMPLETELY WHILE I'M DRIVING. IT IS VERY UNSAFE, I PURCHASED THE CAR NEW AND DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S HAPPENING. HAS HAPPENED MULTIPLE TIMES NOW.

Mileage: 9,000

AIRBAGS DID NOT INFLACT WHEN CAR HAD A HARD IMPACK HIT TO FRONT OF CAR. I WAS GOING 40MPH OR MORE WHEN A CAR COME INTO MY LINE. INODER TO AVOID THE HEAD ON COLISION I SHRIVED TO THE RIGHT AND HIT A IN GROUND BRICK THAT WERE BOUNDED INTO THE GROUND. THE FRONT END AND ENGINE WAS DAMAGE. THE CAR IS NOW...

BACKUP CAMERA IS NOT STANDARD IN THIS VEHICLE. YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE HIGHEST TRIM LEVEL TO GET ONE. THIS IS AGAINST THE 2018 REGULATIONS.

ON NISSAN MOTORS USA WEBSITE, THE LOWER TRIMS LEVELS OF THE VERSA SEDAN DO NOT INCLUDE BACKUP CAMERAS! WASN'T THAT MADE MANDATORY!?

ON NISSAN MOTORS USA WEBSITE, THE LOWER TRIMS LEVELS OF THE VERSA SEDAN DO NOT INCLUDE BACKUP CAMERAS! WASN'T THAT MADE MANDATORY!?