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TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2007 TIFFIN ALLEGRO BAY MOTOR HOME. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE DEPRESSING THE BRAKE PEDAL, THE ABS WARNING LIGHT WOULD ILLUMINATE AND THE BRAKE PEDAL WOULD GO STRAIGHT DOWN ONTO THE FLOORBOARD. THE DEALER AND THE MANUFACTURER WERE NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE, BUT DENIED ANY ASSISTANCE WITH REPAIRS TO THE VEHICLE. THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 15,000 AND THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 35,000. UPDATED 03/27/12*LJ THE CONSUMER STATED HE DID NOT EXPERIENCE A BRAKE FAILURE. HIS CALL TO NHTSA WAS OUT OF CONCERN FOR OTHER MODELS THAT DID HAVE A FAILURE BECAUSE THEY WERE EQUIPPED WITH THE SAME BOSCH BRAKES AS HIS RV. UPDATED 03/30/12 LJ ....UPDATED 04/09/12 *BF
HAD STOPPED FOR FUEL AFTER DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 150 MILES. SMELLED BURNING BUT WALK AROUND AND OBSERVATION FOUND NOTHING. DROVE APPROXIMATELY 10 MILES FURTHER AND PUSHED BRAKE PEDAL TO STOP. PEDAL WENT ALL THE WAY TO FLOOR. PUMPING THE BRAKES VIGOROUSLY RESTORED SOME BRAKING. WAS ABLE TO FINISH TRIP (APPROXIMATELY 1 BLOCK FURTHER) DRIVING VERY SLOWLY UNTIL UNIT PARKED IN STORAGE LOT. DURING THIS SMALL DISTANCE VEHICLE FELT LIKE BRAKE WAS LOCKED ON - AS IF EMERGENCY BRAKE DID NOT RELEASE. UPON DISEMBARKING PASSENGER OUTSIDE TIRE WAS SMOKING AND VERY HOT. *TR
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2007 TIFFIN ALLEGRO BAY MOTOR HOME. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE DEPRESSING THE BRAKE PEDAL, THE ABS WARNING LIGHT WOULD ILLUMINATE AND THE BRAKE PEDAL WOULD GO STRAIGHT DOWN ONTO THE FLOORBOARD. THE DEALER AND THE MANUFACTURER WERE NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE, BUT DENIED ANY ASSISTANCE WITH REPAIRS TO THE VEHICLE. THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 15,000 AND THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 35,000. UPDATED 03/27/12*LJ THE CONSUMER STATED HE DID NOT EXPERIENCE A BRAKE FAILURE. HIS CALL TO NHTSA WAS OUT OF CONCERN FOR OTHER MODELS THAT DID HAVE A FAILURE BECAUSE THEY WERE EQUIPPED WITH THE SAME BOSCH BRAKES AS HIS RV. UPDATED 03/30/12 LJ ....UPDATED 04/09/12 *BF
HAD STOPPED FOR FUEL AFTER DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 150 MILES. SMELLED BURNING BUT WALK AROUND AND OBSERVATION FOUND NOTHING. DROVE APPROXIMATELY 10 MILES FURTHER AND PUSHED BRAKE PEDAL TO STOP. PEDAL WENT ALL THE WAY TO FLOOR. PUMPING THE BRAKES VIGOROUSLY RESTORED SOME BRAKING. WAS ABLE TO FINISH TRIP (APPROXIMATELY 1 BLOCK FURTHER) DRIVING VERY SLOWLY UNTIL UNIT PARKED IN STORAGE LOT. DURING THIS SMALL DISTANCE VEHICLE FELT LIKE BRAKE WAS LOCKED ON - AS IF EMERGENCY BRAKE DID NOT RELEASE. UPON DISEMBARKING PASSENGER OUTSIDE TIRE WAS SMOKING AND VERY HOT. *TR
THIS IS A 38' MOTORHOME BUILT ON A FREIGHTLINER FRONT ENGINE DIESEL CHASSIS. THIS CHASSIS HAS HYDRAULIC BRAKES (NOT AIR BRAKES). BRAKES FAILED WHILE EXITING A FREEWAY - NARROWLY AVOIDING A CRASH. RETURNING HOME FROM A WEEK AWAY IN AN RV RESORT. STOPPED FOR FUEL ABOUT 10 MILES FROM HOME. NOTICED A SMELL OF HOT BRAKES, BUT NOTHING ELSE UNUSUAL. DID A COMPLETE WALKAROUND AFTER FUELING - ALL NORMAL. ABOUT 8 MILES LATER, WHEN EXITING THE FREEWAY, THE BRAKE PEDAL WENT COMPLETELY TO THE FLOOR WITH NO EFFECT. THE ENGINE BRAKE WAS ENGAGED QUICKLY AND AFTER SOME RAPID PUMPING ON THE PEDAL, GOT ENOUGH BRAKE EFFECT THAT I COULD AVOID A CRASH AT THE END OF THE RAMP AND MADE IT SAFELY TO A PLACE TO STOP AND GET OFF THE ROAD. UPON WALKAROUND, THERE WAS AN EXTREME SMELL OF HOT BRAKES, HEAVY BRAKE DUST INSIDE REAR RIMS, AND A PUDDLE OF HYDRAULIC FLUID (ABOUT 1 QUART) UNDER THE MASTER CYLINDER. NOTE THAT THERE WAS NO DOWNHILL OR OTHER EXTENDED BRAKING PRIOR. VEHICLE WAS PARKED OVERNIGHT. AFTER CALLING FOR A TOW IN THE MORNING AND RETURNING TO THE COACH, THERE WAS ENOUGH PEDAL TO NAVIGATE THE COACH TO A PLACE ACCESSIBLE TO THE TOW TRUCK AND IT WAS TOWED TO A FREIGHTLINER SERVICE CENTER. THE SERVICE CENTER FOUND THAT THERE WAS OBVIOUS SIGNS OF OVERHEATING. REAR ABS SENSORS WERE MELTED FROM HEAT. PADS AND ROTORS DESTROYED. TROUBLESHOOT SYSTEM AND FOUND NO PROBLEMS OTHER THAN APPARENTLY REAR CALIPER PISTONS HAD STUCK, CAUSING BRAKES TO DRAG, OVERHEATING THE SYSTEM, RESULTING IN FAILURE. UPON POSTING MY EXPERIENCE ON A TIFFIN WEB SITE, I LEARNED THAT THERE ARE DOZENS OF COACHES THAT HAVE HAD SAME EXPERIENCE. FREIGHTLINER KNOWS ABOUT IT - THEY INSTRUCTED SERVICE CENTER TO USE SPECIAL GREASE TO LUBE CALIPER (GREASE USED FOR AIRCRAFT APPLICATIONS). APPARENTLY SAME BRAKE CALIPERS SUBJECT OF RECALL IN GM WORKHORSE CHASSIS FOR MOTORHOMES. SIGNIFICANT SAFETY ISSUE-LUCKY TO AVOID CRASH! *TR
THIS IS A 38' MOTORHOME BUILT ON A FREIGHTLINER FRONT ENGINE DIESEL CHASSIS. THIS CHASSIS HAS HYDRAULIC BRAKES (NOT AIR BRAKES). BRAKES FAILED WHILE EXITING A FREEWAY - NARROWLY AVOIDING A CRASH. RETURNING HOME FROM A WEEK AWAY IN AN RV RESORT. STOPPED FOR FUEL ABOUT 10 MILES FROM HOME. NOTICED A SMELL OF HOT BRAKES, BUT NOTHING ELSE UNUSUAL. DID A COMPLETE WALKAROUND AFTER FUELING - ALL NORMAL. ABOUT 8 MILES LATER, WHEN EXITING THE FREEWAY, THE BRAKE PEDAL WENT COMPLETELY TO THE FLOOR WITH NO EFFECT. THE ENGINE BRAKE WAS ENGAGED QUICKLY AND AFTER SOME RAPID PUMPING ON THE PEDAL, GOT ENOUGH BRAKE EFFECT THAT I COULD AVOID A CRASH AT THE END OF THE RAMP AND MADE IT SAFELY TO A PLACE TO STOP AND GET OFF THE ROAD. UPON WALKAROUND, THERE WAS AN EXTREME SMELL OF HOT BRAKES, HEAVY BRAKE DUST INSIDE REAR RIMS, AND A PUDDLE OF HYDRAULIC FLUID (ABOUT 1 QUART) UNDER THE MASTER CYLINDER. NOTE THAT THERE WAS NO DOWNHILL OR OTHER EXTENDED BRAKING PRIOR. VEHICLE WAS PARKED OVERNIGHT. AFTER CALLING FOR A TOW IN THE MORNING AND RETURNING TO THE COACH, THERE WAS ENOUGH PEDAL TO NAVIGATE THE COACH TO A PLACE ACCESSIBLE TO THE TOW TRUCK AND IT WAS TOWED TO A FREIGHTLINER SERVICE CENTER. THE SERVICE CENTER FOUND THAT THERE WAS OBVIOUS SIGNS OF OVERHEATING. REAR ABS SENSORS WERE MELTED FROM HEAT. PADS AND ROTORS DESTROYED. TROUBLESHOOT SYSTEM AND FOUND NO PROBLEMS OTHER THAN APPARENTLY REAR CALIPER PISTONS HAD STUCK, CAUSING BRAKES TO DRAG, OVERHEATING THE SYSTEM, RESULTING IN FAILURE. UPON POSTING MY EXPERIENCE ON A TIFFIN WEB SITE, I LEARNED THAT THERE ARE DOZENS OF COACHES THAT HAVE HAD SAME EXPERIENCE. FREIGHTLINER KNOWS ABOUT IT - THEY INSTRUCTED SERVICE CENTER TO USE SPECIAL GREASE TO LUBE CALIPER (GREASE USED FOR AIRCRAFT APPLICATIONS). APPARENTLY SAME BRAKE CALIPERS SUBJECT OF RECALL IN GM WORKHORSE CHASSIS FOR MOTORHOMES. SIGNIFICANT SAFETY ISSUE-LUCKY TO AVOID CRASH! *TR
BRAKES OVERHEATED, BURNED OUT ABS SENSORS, LOCKED UP REAR BRAKES. THIS RV HAS BOSCH BRAKES INSTALLED, AND WORKHORSE CHASSIS RV'S HAVE A RECALL FOR MOISTURE GETTING IN THE BRAKE SYSTEM AND HEATING UP AND NOT RELEASING THE BRAKES. FREIGHTLINER OR ANY RV COMPANY WITH BOSCH BRAKES NEEDS TO ISSUE A RECALL BEFORE SOME GETS KILLED OR HURT,[XXX] INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6). *TR
BRAKES OVERHEATED, BURNED OUT ABS SENSORS, LOCKED UP REAR BRAKES. THIS RV HAS BOSCH BRAKES INSTALLED, AND WORKHORSE CHASSIS RV'S HAVE A RECALL FOR MOISTURE GETTING IN THE BRAKE SYSTEM AND HEATING UP AND NOT RELEASING THE BRAKES. FREIGHTLINER OR ANY RV COMPANY WITH BOSCH BRAKES NEEDS TO ISSUE A RECALL BEFORE SOME GETS KILLED OR HURT,[XXX] INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6). *TR
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2007 TIFFIN ALLEGRO BAY RV. THE CONTACT STATED WHILE DRIVING DOWNHILL AT APPROXIMATELY 40 MPH, THE CONTACT ATTEMPTED TO BRAKE BUT TO NO AVAIL. THE BRAKE PEDAL FELL INTO THE FLOORBOARD AND HE HAD TO USE THE EMERGENCY BRAKE TO STOP THE VEHICLE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER WHERE THE CONTACT WAS INFORMED THAT THE REAR CALIPERS WOULD NEED TO BE REPLACED. THE REPAIRS WERE MADE TO THE VEHICLE. THE FAILURE AND CURRENT MILEAGES WERE APPROXIMATELY 30,000.
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2007 TIFFIN ALLEGRO BAY RV. THE CONTACT STATED WHILE DRIVING DOWNHILL AT APPROXIMATELY 40 MPH, THE CONTACT ATTEMPTED TO BRAKE BUT TO NO AVAIL. THE BRAKE PEDAL FELL INTO THE FLOORBOARD AND HE HAD TO USE THE EMERGENCY BRAKE TO STOP THE VEHICLE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER WHERE THE CONTACT WAS INFORMED THAT THE REAR CALIPERS WOULD NEED TO BE REPLACED. THE REPAIRS WERE MADE TO THE VEHICLE. THE FAILURE AND CURRENT MILEAGES WERE APPROXIMATELY 30,000.